Try this for size.
 From    http://www.newciv.org/ISSS_Primer/seminark.html
HINTZ PAGELS "We live in the wake of a physics revolution comparable to the 
Copernican 
demolition of the anthropocentric world
-- a revolution which began with the invention of the theory of relativity and 
quantum 
mechanics in the first decades of this century and which has left most educated 
people behind"
AND: ""If you take a highly intelligent person and give them the best possible, 
elite 
education, then you will most likely wind up with an academic who is completely 
impervious to 
reality." Halton Arp

I've got several more with similar sentiments. So it may be an advantage to 
know no physics, 
less clutter to put in the waste basket. I'm beginning to entertain the notion 
that the 
educated are our biggest contribution to social disaster.

Nature abhors a vacuum, is Newton's worst contribution. There are no vacuums at 
all. In an 
infinite universe things can get quite tenously close to zero, but never attain 
it. So Physics 
habit of making their sums out as zero, is false to fact. It's probably a 
generalisation based 
on the Magdeburg experiment of vaccuuming two half globes and pulling them 
apart with horses 
which they could not.

adrian




archytas wrote:
> Nature abhors a vacuum; physicists are none too keen on it either.
> However, conceptual attempts to fill it up, most famously with ether
> as a hypothetical medium, have regularly created more problems than
> they solved. This is because whatever occupies empty space would have
> to be somehow different from the tangible stuff the world is made of.
> Modern physics challenges the ancient dichotomy between substance and
> void. What is perceived as empty space turns out to be a new kind of
> ether, a patchwork of quantum fields teeming with spontaneous
> activity, and the fundamental building block of nature. Subject to
> random disturbances, this “grid” creates stable packets of energy
> which, by dint of Einstein’s most famous discovery, expressed in the
> equation E=mc2, account for the mass of ordinary matter.
> Wilczek draws on recent developments in the special theory of
> relativity, quantum field theory and quantum chromodynamics to probe
> the origin of mass and the prospects for a unified theory that would
> account for all its seemingly disparate aspects.  “The Lightness of
> Being” began as a series of public lectures given by the author at
> different institutions.  Not the easiest read, this book does cover
> the ground about to be tested at CERN.  I’ll see if I can find a
> sensible review I can codge into the basic claims about more recent
> work.  I am not and never have been a physicist.  This collection of
> papers did help me understand more than I have in the past.
> 
> 
> 
> On 5 Sep, 09:35, archytas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I do, in some senses, believe we are waiting for 'things to pop up'.
>> Travel in the solar system may be fantastic in engineering terms, yet
>> also reveals how limted we still are against concepton of vastness.
>> Metaphors are subject to manifold interpretation as Carlos points to.
>> Even the most studied research leaves us with approximation in our
>> theories (Ludwig - horrible to read).  CERN cranks over in the next
>> few days and will no doubt conclusively prove we need a bigger home
>> for the bouys and girls playing in it.
>>
>> On 4 Sep, 19:34, Georges Metanomski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




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