"...I'm beginning to entertain the notion that the educated are our
biggest contribution to social disaster..." - Adrian

Could be....and, training = training....memes = memes. Those
susceptible to trance...are.

On Sep 5, 4:03 am, adrf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Try this for size.
>  From    http://www.newciv.org/ISSS_Primer/seminark.html
> HINTZ PAGELS "We live in the wake of a physics revolution comparable to the 
> Copernican
> demolition of the anthropocentric world
> -- a revolution which began with the invention of the theory of relativity 
> and quantum
> mechanics in the first decades of this century and which has left most 
> educated people behind"
> AND: ""If you take a highly intelligent person and give them the best 
> possible, elite
> education, then you will most likely wind up with an academic who is 
> completely impervious to
> reality." Halton Arp
>
> I've got several more with similar sentiments. So it may be an advantage to 
> know no physics,
> less clutter to put in the waste basket. I'm beginning to entertain the 
> notion that the
> educated are our biggest contribution to social disaster.
>
> Nature abhors a vacuum, is Newton's worst contribution. There are no vacuums 
> at all. In an
> infinite universe things can get quite tenously close to zero, but never 
> attain it. So Physics
> habit of making their sums out as zero, is false to fact. It's probably a 
> generalisation based
> on the Magdeburg experiment of vaccuuming two half globes and pulling them 
> apart with horses
> which they could not.
>
> adrian
>
>
>
> archytas wrote:
> > Nature abhors a vacuum; physicists are none too keen on it either.
> > However, conceptual attempts to fill it up, most famously with ether
> > as a hypothetical medium, have regularly created more problems than
> > they solved. This is because whatever occupies empty space would have
> > to be somehow different from the tangible stuff the world is made of.
> > Modern physics challenges the ancient dichotomy between substance and
> > void. What is perceived as empty space turns out to be a new kind of
> > ether, a patchwork of quantum fields teeming with spontaneous
> > activity, and the fundamental building block of nature. Subject to
> > random disturbances, this “grid” creates stable packets of energy
> > which, by dint of Einstein’s most famous discovery, expressed in the
> > equation E=mc2, account for the mass of ordinary matter.
> > Wilczek draws on recent developments in the special theory of
> > relativity, quantum field theory and quantum chromodynamics to probe
> > the origin of mass and the prospects for a unified theory that would
> > account for all its seemingly disparate aspects.  “The Lightness of
> > Being” began as a series of public lectures given by the author at
> > different institutions.  Not the easiest read, this book does cover
> > the ground about to be tested at CERN.  I’ll see if I can find a
> > sensible review I can codge into the basic claims about more recent
> > work.  I am not and never have been a physicist.  This collection of
> > papers did help me understand more than I have in the past.
>
> > On 5 Sep, 09:35, archytas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> I do, in some senses, believe we are waiting for 'things to pop up'.
> >> Travel in the solar system may be fantastic in engineering terms, yet
> >> also reveals how limted we still are against concepton of vastness.
> >> Metaphors are subject to manifold interpretation as Carlos points to.
> >> Even the most studied research leaves us with approximation in our
> >> theories (Ludwig - horrible to read).  CERN cranks over in the next
> >> few days and will no doubt conclusively prove we need a bigger home
> >> for the bouys and girls playing in it.
>
> >> On 4 Sep, 19:34, Georges Metanomski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:- Hide 
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