--- On Thu, 9/4/08, einseele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: einseele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [epistemology 9391] Re: johnreed take 25 - August 17, 2008
> To: "Epistemology" <[email protected]>
> Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 6:50 PM
> > ===============
> > G:
> > I don't know about magic and religion, but science
> does
> > not look into "objects", ignoring this naive
> realism's
> > term, but observes events and coordinates them in
> > abstract maps called models.
> > That deals also with yours below, so I finish here.
> >
> > Georges.
> > ===============
>
> You ignore about the term object.
> And science yes deals with objects. Because after all that
> is just
> matter of the word use
> Computer Science is "object oriented" And that...
> believe me, has
> nothing to do with any naive realism's term.
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G:
Let me clarify my point, muddled by the multitude of
homonyms of "object". First, there is "object" of the
observation polarity "subject/object". Science deals of
course with that, it's its main fabric. But we did not
talk about that, but about "real objects - things", like
tree or car. It's Technology that deals with them and
also low level derived sciences like bio-chemistry.
But science opened into the ocean of Newton's allegory,
viz. fundamental physics and astro-physics observes
exclusively events and coordinates them in abstract models
in which the concept of "object-thing" never appears.
As to "computer science" it's no science at all, but
technology and it is not "object oriented", but has
programming procedures called "languages" crudely misnamed
as "object oriented" instead of "class oriented".
C++ is C with classes. Java is a class structure.
Computer science is my professional competence area.
I taught it at a Uni, I designed some greatest systems
ever and conceived an Artificial Intelligence system
which has been used in the Gemini project (sending the man
to the moon). Believe me, I never noticed any trees, cars
or frogs pop up amidst the computer science.
Georges.
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