Thanks, Ed. I like your argument about the loads on a single main 
gear touching down in an extreme crab. I am sure that I won't try to 
test these theories one way or the other, but my instructor was 
curious. When life, limb and the fate of a 60 year old aircraft are 
at risk, I don't think that I will be collecting test pilot data on 
this one.

Frank Nelson

--- In [email protected], "Ed Burkhead" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> 
> Frank Nelson asked:
> > This is an excellent point, Jerry. If an Ercoupe that can handle 
> > 15 knots of crosswind using a standard landing, then it would 
> > seem that such an Ercoupe could use combination of rudder 
> > and crabbed landing to land in a 45 knot crosswind. Is this true 
> > or am I just dreaming? Does the addition of rudder pedals 
> > increase you ability to handle crosswinds?
> 
> The majority of my Coupe flying was with rudder pedals.
> 
> I found that up to a 15 mph crosswind component, I could land one-
wing-low
> with the nose aligned with the runway/direction-of-motion.
> 
> With crosswind components in excess of 15 mph, the rudder 
effectiveness was
> insufficient for that technique.  So, in stronger crosswinds, I 
leveled the
> wings and landed in a crab like any two-control Coupe.
> 
> While I can conceive of landing in a strong crab, one wing low, it
> distresses me to think of it.  Here's why:  In a normal crabbed 
landing,
> both main gears touch at about the same time so the side loads are 
handled
> by both main gear legs.  If you land one wing low AND in a strong 
crab, the
> upwind main gear will touch first, by itself, and may take 
unacceptable side
> loads.  Then again, the side loads may not be a problem even in 
this
> situation.  I don't know - never tried it.
> 
> Me, I landed wings level in a crab whenever the crosswinds were 
very strong.
> Probably 35 mph crosswind component was the strongest I ever did.  
A 30 mph
> direct crosswind didn't faze me landing on a 20 foot wide asphalt 
runway
> once on a cross country trip (well, I sweat some but it turned out 
to be a
> non-event).
> 
> The 25-30 mph crosswind components I had on several wider runways 
on many
> occasions were, similarly, not a big deal.
> 
> Interestingly, when you get down to the last 1'-9' altitude, you 
get a
> dampening of the turbulence from the ground effect and that helps 
make for a
> controlled touchdown.  My technique was to keep the airspeed a bit 
high till
> I was level in ground effect at about 3'-8' high, then bleed off 
the
> airspeed and let it settle down.
> 
> If the crosswinds were much stronger than the strongest I landed 
in, I could
> just about land across the runway or on the 100' taxiway.  With a 
net ground
> speed less than 20 mph, stopping doesn't take very long.  
(Facetious humor -
> kids, don't try this at home!)
> 
> Ed
>


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