In A EV, I design easy access to every single component where you do not have to remove one unit to get to another. I do not mount the accessory units on the motor. The accessories are mounted on a large aluminum mounting that is used on large diesel trucks. This accessory plate is place 8 inches from the motor on four rubber dampers mounted on a cross member.
A cog industrial wide belt design for electric motors, drives a vacuum pump, a A/C, a inverter/alternator, a water pump for heating, power steering pump which was later change to a electric hydraulic pump and also runs the Hydro-Boost braking system. These accessories drive mounts also come with all the brackets for these types of accessories. Electric devices and units are all install in a water proof boxes with the cover facing up. Chassis plates hold Square D terminal strip rails that hold any size of set screw terminal blocks, fuse holders, relays and small contactors. Black flexible plastic conduit and box connectors, connect all the enclosures together and to a under dash plate terminal block mounting blocks. The dash and console plates can be remove separately with screws or can be hinge down. All the instruments and switches are mounted on sub plates which can be remove by unplugging the wire group to the sub plates which all terminated to the terminal block in each section. I use Power Anderson interlocking wire terminals and plugs that can be used to construct and gang any amounted of wire connections you want. In industrial wiring we do not connected a device directly to another device. The wire circuits are connected from that device to a terminal block and than is cross connected to another terminal block which connects to another device. All testing of circuits can be done at these terminal block connections without going to the device it self. I also install a indication panel that monitor these circuit connections. Some of the most important circuits, I can switch out and replace with a spare circuit, such as Ignition ON, Start, Lights, etc. These switches have lighted indications if the circuit is off or on. One time while I was driving the EV, I lost controller 12 vdc power and switch in the spare circuit and kept on moving. Another time, I tried to start up the EV, there was no main contactor coil voltage which was cause by the floor mat laying on top of the accelerator peddle. Every ten years, I remove the motor and transmission for maintenance which includes replacing the brushes, springs, conditioning the communtator and every 20 years, overhaul the transmission, drive line, brakes etc. Roland ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cor van de Water" <[email protected]> To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 7:47 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla Parades EV Battery Swap Technology > When swapping my ICE engine, after 1 hour I was not even ready to > take off the Serpentine belt, let alone to hoist the engine out of the > engine bay... > In my EV truck it is also more involved, since the motor lies in a frame > that goes around the motor and is bolted down under the front battery > box. > So I am afraid that I will have to pull the 4 front batteries, lift the > box and then I can access the motor mounting. > But why would I want to remove the motor? Only the brushes might need > work after a couple years (replace and blow out dust) so why worry about > removing > the motor anyway? > > Cor van de Water > Chief Scientist > Proxim Wireless Corporation http://www.proxim.com > Email: [email protected] Private: http://www.cvandewater.info > Skype: cor_van_de_water Tel: +1 408 383 7626 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Roland Wiench > Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 12:23 PM > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List > Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla Parades EV Battery Swap Technology > > This is a way to remove a battery pack and the motor and transmissions > for > replacement and/or repair. > > My first EV built in 1975 was done this way. The vehicle was hoisted up > and > a dolly was roll under the vehicle. To remove the battery pack was > unplug > and eight bolts were move. The battery boxes was then drop straight > down. > > Also the motor and transmission can be drop straight down by removing > the > bolts on the cross members and unplugging the power and control cables. > The > last time I done this was on 4 Sept 2009, I time my self on how long it > would take to remove the motor and transmission and replace them with a > spare set. > > It only took me about 60 minutes to remove and about the same of amount > of > time to install the spare units. > > I challenge my ICE mechanic to see if he can do a engine and > transmission > exchange in the same amount of time. > > Roland > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Tromley" <[email protected]> > To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 12:49 PM > Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla Parades EV Battery Swap Technology > > > > I have tremendous respect for Tesla, but I think they've taken a > seriously > > wrong turn here. Swapping has been debated ad nauseum. It's an > enticing > > concept, but there are far too many ways it can fail in the real > world. > > Elon better have something very clever up his sleeve or this will > likely > > turn into a very visible failure. Hopefully it just disappears > quietly. > > > > Chris > > On Jun 21, 2013 8:17 AM, "Cor van de Water" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > The Tesla video shows them swapping a Tesla pack on-stage in 90 secs > > > flat > > > from driving onto the swapping unit until driving off. > > > > > > While they swap the packs in 2 Teslas, they have a parallel video > > > of someone filling his gas tank as fast as he could - which takes > approx > > > 4 minutes (at the fastest station they could find nearby), so they > > > actually have to wait for him to complete the fillup after the > second > > > Tesla S has left the swapping station... > > > > > > The comment: now you can choose between free and fast. > > > (The fast-charging of Tesla is free, the fast-swapping apparently > costs > > > about the same as a fillup - they show the end result of the fillup > at > > > $99 so that may be an indication of the price, I did not catch how > much > > > a swap actually is going to cost. > > > > > > http://www.teslamotors.com/batteryswap > > > > > > > > > Cor van de Water > > > Chief Scientist > > > Proxim Wireless Corporation http://www.proxim.com > > > Email: [email protected] Private: http://www.cvandewater.info > > > Skype: cor_van_de_water Tel: +1 408 383 7626 > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On > > > Behalf Of brucedp5 > > > Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 12:17 AM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla Parades EV Battery Swap Technology > > > > > > > > > > http://www.dailytech.com/Tesla+to+Show+Off+EV+Battery+Swap+Tech+This+Wee > > > k/article31784.htm > > > [image] Tesla to Show Off EV Battery Swap Tech This Week > > > by Tiffany Kaiser Jun 18 2013 Source: Giga Om > > > > > > [image > > > > http://images.dailytech.com/nimage/30878_large_Tesla-Model-S-Superchargi > > > ng-GS-thumb-598xauto-6081.jpg > > > (Source: consumerreports.org) > > > ] > > > > > > Tesla will demo its battery swap technology for the Model S > > > > > > Tesla will be demonstrating its battery swap technology this week in > > > hopes > > > of successfully launching an alternative to electric vehicle (EV) > > > charging. > > > > > > Tesla CEO Elon Musk announced via Twitter that the automaker will > show > > > off > > > swappable batteries at its design studio in Hawthorne, California > this > > > Thursday evening at 8 p.m. PST. > > > > > > The idea behind battery swapping is to easily open the car chassis > to > > > pull > > > the battry out and replace it with a fully-charged one. This saves > the > > > driver from having to wait for their battery to charge before > traveling > > > -- > > > especially on a road trip that's longer than the available electric > > > range of > > > their battery. > > > > > > This technology hasn't really taken off yet (although it was > attempted > > > before by Better Place and automaker Renault). The main issue is > > > infrastructure, mainly because it's so expensive to deploy. But with > > > Tesla's > > > ever-increasing number of Super Charger stations, adding a battery > swap > > > service to these areas could be an ideal solution. > > > > > > Tesla's Model S is capable of battery swap, but it hasn't really > been > > > implemented yet. Tesla is looking to change that this Thursday. > > > > > > Tesla has proved to be the superhero of the American electric car > > > startup > > > world. It was approved to receive a $465 million loan from the U.S. > > > Department of Energy (DOE) in June 2009, which was part of the > Advanced > > > Technology Vehicles Manufacturing program. The loan was to be repaid > by > > > 2022, but in March of this year, Tesla received permission to pay > the > > > loan > > > back five years early by mid-2017. > > > > > > However, Tesla managed to repay the whole sum last month -- nine > years > > > earlier than expected from the original 2022 due date. This was > mainly > > > due > > > to its decision to issue more stock the week before. Tesla said it > > > wanted to > > > sell about $830 million in shares, and use $450 million in > convertible > > > senior notes (which are due in 2018) along with sales of 2.7 million > > > shares > > > (valued at about $229 million at the time) to pay back its federal > loan. > > > > > > This is an especially crucial detail in Tesla's history, considering > > > other > > > plug-in hybrid electric automaker Fisker Automotive (which also > received > > > a > > > DOE loan) has failed miserably. > > > > > > Before that, Tesla started shipping 500 Model S sedans per week > starting > > > in > > > March of this year, exceeding the sales outlook of 4,500 posted in > the > > > February shareholder letter. In fact, Tesla managed to sell 4,900 > Model > > > S > > > sedans in the first quarter. The automaker plans to deliver 21,000 > total > > > for > > > the year, which slightly exceeds previous forecasts of about 20,000. > > > > > > For Q1 2013, Tesla reported a net income of $11.2 million (a huge > > > increase > > > from an $89.9 million loss in the year-ago quarter). Excluding > certain > > > items, Tesla's profit came in at 12 cents a share, which was a boost > > > from a > > > loss of 76 cents a share in Q1 2012. Analysts expected a profit of > about > > > 4 > > > cents a share. Revenue also saw a huge year-over-year boost, > totaling > > > $562 > > > million (up from $30.2 million in the year-ago quarter). > > > > > > For those who can't make it to Tesla's California studio this week, > > > don't > > > fret -- Tesla will post a video of the demo on Twitter that night. > > > [(c) dailytech.com] > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.valuewalk.com/2013/06/tesla-motors-inc-tsla-battery-swap/ > > > Tesla CEO Elon Musk : Battery Swap Demo Thurs . > > > ValueWalk-7 hours ago > > > Battery swapping is important for development of electric vehicles > as > > > Tesla > > > ... Of course being able to swap batteries out of an electric > vehicle > > > means > > > that it ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.ibtimes.com/tesla-will-unveil-thursday-its-long-rumored-batte > > > ry-swap-technology-model-s-attempt-quell-concerns > > > Tesla Will Unveil On Thursday Its Long-Rumored Battery Swap ... > > > International Business Times-8 hours ago > > > Later this week in Palo Alto, Calif., electric-vehicle skeptics will > get > > > some answers about Tesla's long-rumored battery pack swap > technology, > > > addressing their ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.ubergizmo.com/2013/06/tesla-parades-ev-battery-swap-technolog > > > y/ > > > Tesla Parades EV Battery Swap Technology -by Edwin Kee > 06/18/2013... > > > Driving an electric car is very different from using a smartphone > which > > > runs > > > on batteries. 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