I track our cars' power usage and our grid-intertie solar power generation, and
we generate, on an annual average, seventeen times as much as our two cars use.
So we're only using hydrocarbons in so far as everything's fungible, and
thirty-four other cars are using our solar power.
-Bill
On Sep 15, 2014, at 10:59, "Robert Bruninga via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
>> ...then no one should be driving at ALL.
>> Even an EV derives it's power from fossil sources in one way or another.
>
>
> Whoaa, that is simply not true (though the right wing media would like us
> to believe it).
>
> Studies have shown that at least HALF of all people who purchase an EV
> either have solar or buy their electricity from 100% clean renewable
> providers such as solar or wind. And most of those that don't have that
> option say they WOULD if their local power company offered it.
>
> It is no coincidence that most of those people who buy EV's are also the
> motivated people who buy 100% clean renewable energy if they can.
>
> My EV is 100% free of fossil fuel (we have total solar at our house). We
> have reduced our fossil fuel energy consumption from over 3000 gallons
> equivalent per year down to 300. That is a 10-to-1 reduction. That last
> 300 gallons per year is for the Prius that we keep for trips beyond
> routine EV range. See a plot of how we went from 3000 gal to 300 in just
> the last few years (about 50% down this page:)
>
> http://aprs.org/AFM-environment.html
>
> And the amazing thing is that switching to solar and EV's is CHEAPER than
> just continuing to burn coal and oil to oblivion. This weekend, I just
> added another 3 kW array to my house for a total of 14 kW (and another 3
> kW in the driveway awaiting non-honey-do time). Cost of this last 3kW
> (DIY) is on the order of 90 cents a watt or about $2700 including the
> inverter. And will generate about $500 a year in return. That is a 26%
> return on investment per year for the rest of my life.... Compare 26% ROI
> to savings at 1% or the stock market at 6%. And this 26% "ROI" will
> actually go UP every time the cost of energy goes up.... It makes no sense
> not to invest in solar if you have sun!
>
> PS, most people will not need an array this big. My house is 90+ years
> old, and consumes probably twice what an average modern house consumes, so
> most people would not need more than about a 10kw array.
>
> Not bragging, just showing that it can be done, and is cheaper in the long
> run than doing nothing.
>
> The things that are certain in live are Death, Taxes and Utilities. The
> one thing you can't solve is death, but you can sure reduce your taxes by
> 30% and eliminate utilities for the rest of your life by going solar!
>
> Bob, Wb4aPR
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