Actually, in the big picture it is true - EVs consume fossil fuels.
Even if all the power to operate them comes from solar, please consider:
- energy to design and manufacture the vehicle,
- energy and materials to provide charging infrastruture (i.e. your
solar panels)
- energy and materials for roads
- energy wasted indirectly as a result of traffic congestion.
All said, EVs are fantastic but there's no question that the best way to
use less energy, including fossil fuels, is to *not* drive!
Peri
------ Original Message ------
From: "Bill Woodcock via EV" <[email protected]>
To: "Robert Bruninga" <[email protected]>; "Electric Vehicle Discussion
List" <[email protected]>
Sent: 15-Sep-14 8:27:15 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Electrifying Large Vehicles> converting buyers to a
higher mpge design (and fossil free)
I track our cars' power usage and our grid-intertie solar power
generation, and we generate, on an annual average, seventeen times as
much as our two cars use. So we're only using hydrocarbons in so far as
everything's fungible, and thirty-four other cars are using our solar
power.
-Bill
On Sep 15, 2014, at 10:59, "Robert Bruninga via EV" <[email protected]>
wrote:
...then no one should be driving at ALL.
Even an EV derives it's power from fossil sources in one way or
another.
Whoaa, that is simply not true (though the right wing media would
like us
to believe it).
Studies have shown that at least HALF of all people who purchase an
EV
either have solar or buy their electricity from 100% clean renewable
providers such as solar or wind. And most of those that don't have
that
option say they WOULD if their local power company offered it.
It is no coincidence that most of those people who buy EV's are also
the
motivated people who buy 100% clean renewable energy if they can.
My EV is 100% free of fossil fuel (we have total solar at our house).
We
have reduced our fossil fuel energy consumption from over 3000
gallons
equivalent per year down to 300. That is a 10-to-1 reduction. That
last
300 gallons per year is for the Prius that we keep for trips beyond
routine EV range. See a plot of how we went from 3000 gal to 300 in
just
the last few years (about 50% down this page:)
http://aprs.org/AFM-environment.html
And the amazing thing is that switching to solar and EV's is CHEAPER
than
just continuing to burn coal and oil to oblivion. This weekend, I
just
added another 3 kW array to my house for a total of 14 kW (and
another 3
kW in the driveway awaiting non-honey-do time). Cost of this last 3kW
(DIY) is on the order of 90 cents a watt or about $2700 including the
inverter. And will generate about $500 a year in return. That is a
26%
return on investment per year for the rest of my life.... Compare 26%
ROI
to savings at 1% or the stock market at 6%. And this 26% "ROI" will
actually go UP every time the cost of energy goes up.... It makes no
sense
not to invest in solar if you have sun!
PS, most people will not need an array this big. My house is 90+
years
old, and consumes probably twice what an average modern house
consumes, so
most people would not need more than about a 10kw array.
Not bragging, just showing that it can be done, and is cheaper in the
long
run than doing nothing.
The things that are certain in live are Death, Taxes and Utilities.
The
one thing you can't solve is death, but you can sure reduce your
taxes by
30% and eliminate utilities for the rest of your life by going solar!
Bob, Wb4aPR
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