If anyone in the USA cannot get renewable wind or solar power from their
utility (which is the case with the PG&E in California), you should get
in contact with Pear Energy, who will guarantee you to purchase REC
(Renewable Energy Credits) for the amount you are consuming, so you can
rely on thia amount of renewable energy being sent into the national
electric grid, so by all accounts, you are now on clean power and this
will cost you a small fee of 2 cents per kWh.
For an average $6 per month, all my electric consumption in the house
and to charge my EV is fully renewable - without solar on the roof and
under an unwilling utility!


Cor van de Water
Chief Scientist
Proxim Wireless Corporation http://www.proxim.com
Email: cwa...@proxim.com Private: http://www.cvandewater.info
Skype: cor_van_de_water Tel: +1 408 383 7626

-----Original Message-----
From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Robert Bruninga
via EV
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 7:59 AM
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Electrifying Large Vehicles> converting buyers to a
higher mpge design (and fossil free)

> ...then no one should be driving at ALL.
> Even an EV derives it's power from fossil sources in one way or

Whoaa, that is simply not true (though the right wing media would like
to believe it).

Studies have shown that at least HALF of all people who purchase an EV
either have solar or buy their electricity from 100% clean renewable
providers such as solar or wind.  And most of those that don't have that
option say they WOULD if their local power company offered it.

It is no coincidence that most of those people who buy EV's are also the
motivated people who buy 100% clean renewable energy if they can.

My EV is 100% free of fossil fuel (we have total solar at our house).
have reduced our fossil fuel energy consumption from over 3000 gallons
equivalent per year down to 300.  That is a 10-to-1 reduction.  That
300 gallons per year is for the Prius that we keep for trips beyond
routine EV range.  See a plot of how we went from 3000 gal to 300 in
the last few years (about 50% down this page:)


And the amazing thing is that switching to solar and EV's is CHEAPER
just continuing to burn coal and oil to oblivion.  This weekend, I just
added another 3 kW array to my house for a total of 14 kW (and another 3
kW in the driveway awaiting non-honey-do time).  Cost of this last 3kW
(DIY) is on the order of 90 cents a watt or about $2700 including the
inverter.  And will generate  about $500 a year in return.  That is a
return on investment per year for the rest of my life....  Compare 26%
to savings at 1% or the stock market at 6%.  And this 26% "ROI" will
actually go UP every time the cost of energy goes up.... It makes no
not to invest in solar if you have sun!

PS, most people will not need an array this big.  My house is 90+ years
old, and consumes probably twice what an average modern house consumes,
most people would not need more than about a 10kw array.

Not bragging, just showing that it can be done, and is cheaper in the
run than doing nothing.

The things that are certain in live are  Death, Taxes and Utilities.
one thing you can't solve is death, but you can sure reduce your taxes
30% and eliminate utilities for the rest of your life by going solar!

Bob, Wb4aPR
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