I seem to remember a GM presentation by their head of devt in Palo Alto where the conclusion was that the ELR essentially was getting the Volt drivetrain with a few tweaks to make it slightly more efficient or a slight capacity increase by electronics or SW improvement - no change to the battery pack design itself IIRC, so that the slightly heavier and larger (frontal area) ELR did not have much shorter range than the Volt. But it was confirmed that it was slightly less. Power might be slightly higher from the tweaks, but no significant changes from Volt to ELR that I am aware of.
Cor van de Water Chief Scientist Proxim Wireless Corporation http://www.proxim.com Email: [email protected] Private: http://www.cvandewater.info Skype: cor_van_de_water Tel: +1 408 383 7626 -----Original Message----- From: EV [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of brucedp5 via EV Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 9:34 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [EVDL] Electrifying Large Vehicles> converting buyers to a higher mpge design Ben;s comments (below) are along the lines I was attempting to convey. That the full-size (puffy) truck or suv vehicle its self is what the buyer wants, and that the pih model would be close to the same size and passenger seating (only trimming down the length and width to fit and maneuver into typical USA parking spaces), but using a pih drive train. The Volt pih drive train comes to mind, and in one of the links I provided in my original post Lutz sez the Volt should have been a truck (well maybe he was promoting VIA as that is now the company he is part of). Correct me if I am wrong but isn't the Cadillac pih (aka elr) drivetrain more powerful than the Volt's. If so, perhaps a crew-cab Chevy Colorado with a Cadillac pih drivetrain would be a first pass design approach to a pih truck that would be of the size and capability interest to truck buyers that do not have a high cargo or towing demand need from their vehicle (more of a people and some items transporter, than a heavy-duty construction work truck). {brucedp.150m.com} ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadillac_ELR#Specifications ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Colorado - On Mon, Sep 15, 2014, at 06:48 AM, Ben Goren via EV wrote: ... > If a "puffy" SUV or truck were outfitted with something analogous to the > Volt's drivetrain but appropriately "up-sized," even with the same size > battery pack, at worst it'd still have a ~20 mile all-electric range. As > a marketing bonus, that electric motor will have lots of low-end torque, > and that metric is the one the marketing departments love to use for > these vehicles. For many, that would make it a pure BEV for 80% of trips. > Even those putting an hundred miles a day on the vehicle would still be > driving 20% of their miles electrically...and that's the equivalent of > turning one out of five "puffy" vehicles purely electric. - -- View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Electrifyin g-Large-Vehicles-converting-buyers-to-a-higher-mpge-design-tp4671523p467 1573.html Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
