I’ve not read it, and am not familiar with it, but can tell you that the 
industry has changed quite a bit.

Remember how the BEV industry was just 10 years ago, 20 years ago, and 30 years 
and more ago.

Back then, while pushing for years for a ZEV mandate, I heard many of the same 
arguments used by the auto and oil companies about BEVs as I have heard for 
several years about hydrogen.

- Mark

Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone

> On Dec 22, 2018, at 8:13 PM, Gail Lucas via EV <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> One of our long term list members, Darryl McMahon, who I think still 
> contributes here occasionally, wrote a book on hydrogen several years ago. It 
> is available on Amazon as well as from his own site. Covers things being 
> discussed here.
> 
> http://www.econogics.com/TENHE/index.htm
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/Emperors-New-Hydrogen-Economy/dp/0595392296/
> 
> Nice man, EV advocate for ages. Met him when he visited Las Vegas quite a few 
> years ago.
> 
> Gail
> 
>> On 12/21/2018 5:24 AM, Willie via EV wrote:
>>> On 12/21/18 6:58 AM, Mark Abramowitz wrote:
>>> Willie,
>>> 
>>> Fuel cell vehicles are NOT off-topic (check the charter), but I put OT in 
>>> there just because I thought that this particular conversation was OT - but 
>>> perhaps it isn’t OT.
>>> 
>>> Is there a future? Not really the subject of the post, and also a question 
>>> I’m not sure how I would ever answer a question like that with a “source”. 
>>> So I’ll avoid thread-crapping my own thread.
>> Well, you seemed to be our window to the hydrogen world.  Surely "the 
>> hydrogen people" have some real or hoped for solutions to the distribution 
>> and efficiencies problems.  Else, they would not be pursuing.  At least 
>> sincere and honest people would not be pursuing.
>>> Yes, decarbonized hydrogen can absolutely include cracked water. I don’t 
>>> know what the original intent of the Hydrogen Council was, but I would 
>>> think that it would also include non-petroleum based natural gas.
>> The concept of "non-petroleum natural gas" was foreign to me.  But I now see 
>> and guess that might be feed lot and landfill methane.  I don't see how 
>> "non-petroleum natural gas" would be more virtuous than real natural gas. Or 
>> somehow be associated with "decarbonized hydrogen".  Of course, "cracked 
>> water" has the advantage of being free of the carbon stigma if the electric 
>> power used has wind/PV/etc sources.
>> Thanks!
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