Forgot to say: The main reason I have that Model S pack in the workshop is
to provide power for testing drive units.   It's sort of overkill for a
home backup.  I've never used more than about 10% during a power outage,
but it's sure nice to know it's there!

On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 7:13 PM (-Phil-) <p...@ingineerix.com> wrote:

> My backup is a complete 85kWh pack from a 2014 Tesla Model S which is
> hooked to a 15kW split-phase inverter made by Bel (out of production), but
> with some crafty software on my controller I can go open my main breaker on
> the meter and turn on that system.  It fires up the whole hose, then when
> (if) the sun comes out, my SMA 7.7kW grid-tie solar inverter "thinks" that
> the Bel inverter is the grid and begins pushing back into the Tesla
> battery.   When the Tesla pack hits 85% SoC, my controller "burps" the AC
> by switching to 50hz for one cycle, then back to 60hz.  This causes the SMA
> to disconnect and wait 5 minutes.  It will keep repeating this until the
> SoC is below 85%.   The controller is based on an ESP32 so it has a web
> page and will send out low SoC warnings to my phone.   My house is
> heated/cooled by a LG multi-zone mini-split heat pump, so it runs fine on
> the off-grid system.   I also still have the house's original natural gas
> furnace if needed, but I normally don't run it.
>
> I told myself I'd automate this with a big 250A contactor on the main AC
> input, but it's a lot of expense/work and the power isn't out here but
> maybe a few times a year, and I can handle the manual switchover when it's
> needed.   I have all my critical gear on a 2kVa off-line UPS hooked to a
> 48v 280Ah LFP bank, so that will stay up anyway.
>
> Picture of the Tesla pack in my workshop:
> https://ingineerix.com/pic/?tesla-super-powerwall
>
> Bel 15kW inverter:
> https://www.belfuse.com/product-detail/power-solutions-custom-value-added-solutions-emobility-350invch150-inverter-charger
>
> On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 6:13 PM Phil Hochstetler via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Portland Oregon area just experienced a wind/cold event that took away
>> power from 150,000+.
>> I have a new in the box 7500 watt tri-fuel generator but had not set it up
>> yet (of course).
>> My model 3 was charged, but not setup with an inverter yet due to lack of
>> motivation, but our Rav4 Prime
>> had a full tank of gas and the 1500 watt built-in inverter that runs off
>> the high voltage pack.
>> I wired a short cord on the furnace (NG furnace) so we had heat as it was
>> 12F out and ran a cord into the house
>> under the garage door so we could run a light or two and the 2 burner
>> countertop induction stove and refrigerator.
>> Pretty sweet.  In on mode (with doors locked with key), the rav4 would
>> turn
>> on when the battery got low and recharge the battery.
>> After 24 hours, it used 1/8 tank of gas but we were warm and had
>> light/food.  I went out and got 10 gal of gas to fire up the generator
>> and the power came on before I got back.  Still fun.
>>
>> Phil Hochstetler
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 5:58 PM Mark E. Hanson via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Folks,
>> >
>> > I was reading Otmar's inverter connection to a Tesla-3 and looks like
>> Tesla
>> > makes it really difficult to run a 1500W 12V inverter from their EVs.
>> My
>> > Bolt shows 130A available from its DC-DC converter, just clamp the
>> Harbor
>> > Fright inverter (have 1500W with 200A inline breaker, short aligator
>> > clamps)
>> > on the battery & the Leaf appears to be rated about 90A, so probably not
>> > enough to run my mini-split at 12A, 120V.   Presently if the power goes
>> out
>> > - I just put another log in my wood stove, but thinking it would be
>> nice to
>> > run one of my EV's as the 64KWH power source incase the power goes out
>> for
>> > awhile.  I have a Bergey wind turbine on LiFePO4 7KWH batteries, but
>> that
>> > would only last a few hours running the Pioneer mini-split.  Has anyone
>> > done
>> > this successfully?  The Bolt has to be *on* in neutral or park with the
>> key
>> > in to keep the DC-DC converter alive.  Would rather not have a Kerosun
>> for
>> > backup...
>> >
>> > Subject: Model 3 Inverter Power Connection - Otmar's Variety Blog
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> https://www.cafeelectric.com/blog/2020/06/08/inverter-power-connection-1/
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Have a renewable energy day,
>> >
>> > Mark
>> >
>> > Mark E. Hanson
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>> >
>> >
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