How about 'Military Grade Security'? It has possibly negative military connotations, but I don't think most CMS reviewers will read too much into that. Regardless of ones politics, I think the fact that Zope is on the published approved OSS list of packages at DoD, and Plone specifically is on the list for NASA speaks volumes. Since it's used at other related sites that have been mentioned (intelligence agencies, Navy, etc.), I think that using the term 'Military Grade' is fair and clear. Not something we'd have to explain to would-be adopters of Plone.


Mark A Corum wrote:
+1 on a legitimate slogan like "Secure by Design" or something else
that reflects the fact.

-1,000,000 on creating our own term to describe something which
everyone else already knows by another name.  "Trucolor" and
"Speedboost" are just recent examples of an obnoxious tactic problem
first known by the candy "Certs" advertising itself with "Retsyn for
Freshness"  (Retsyn was their trademarked name for vegetable oil.)
Most folks recognize these for what they are now.

Believe it or not, as audiences become more knowledgeable, the best
tactics for selling your product are clarity and accuracy.  You can
package that in an interesting, engaging way - you can make it
entertaining and fun -  and you can give it personality - but for
something like a CMS a straightforward approach makes sense.

BTW - creating, popularizing and supporting a made-up term is one of
the most expensive things you can do for a product or company.  Most
research shows that the same money put into R&D or customer support
will always yield 3-5 x the return on investment vs this approach
unless you have serious cash to dump in from the outset.


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On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Matt Hamilton <> wrote:
Forgot to reply all...

Begin forwarded message:

From: Matt Hamilton <>
Date: 28 November 2009 02:55:36 PM GMT
To: ctxlken <>
Subject: Re: [Evangelism] Hack Plone! Win a Mac!

  Mark A Corum wrote:

  If Plone had previously been weak on security, and had gotten its act

  together, this might make sense.  But in reality -- where Plone is a

  VERY secure system with a long-term record of protecting sites and

  data -- this kind of circus stunt is not a good idea.

A random idea (whilst I'm trying to write some why Plone is good for
enterprise copy)...

How about we come up with some kind of slogan or something like that 'Secure
by Design' or similar. Something that we can then explain relates to the use
of a language with good security track record (python) a battle tested
platform (Zope) and the use of an OODB rather than a SQL DB.

You know the way many products have some kind of marketing made up name for
something ie. 'Now with TruColor', or 'Built in SpeedBoost technology'
etc... that is what I'm thinking.


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