Hi John,

There are many opportunities to invite and initiate around this theme of "participant-facilitator" or "stakeholder-spaceholder". Probably an overwhelming number of options. What might work? It does seem at least a few here are interested. At least for now, I'd love to continue here on the OSList.

This topic really took off with Tony Budak's invitation around furthering Harrison Owen's attempt to open space for an 8 billion person conversation. His original invite to 8 billion in January 2019 was spoken via Zoom to Opening Space for Peace and High Performance in NYC's International House, an annual open space. His talk and invitation to 8 billion people was published as a video - https://youtu.be/M_6dPhwJqbI. (In many ways, it was one of Harrison's best talks, I highly recommend it!)

Harrison has helped me understand that space is already open. I'll paraphrase him poorly I'm sure, but our job with that knowledge is just to increase our awareness of space already being open. We can always invite. And to be okay with no one responding. If I still care, I can still move the work forward, even by myself. Or with a small group. Most human advances started with individuals and small groups.

Tony's comments about peripheral small groups advancing the conversation relates in this way to the topic of participant-facilitator. I've have experienced and deeply resonate with what Tony summarized from the Damon Centola work. Such insights are especially helpful to those who see themselves as both spaceholders and stakeholders on this OSList forum.

But what norms and behavior changes are really needed? A big aspect of Harrison's perspective on this (and I haven't asked permission for any of my paraphrasing, and I'd be happy to be corrected), is that no one of us actually really has a clue. If they say they know, they're deceiving us, themselves, or both.

Although I resonate with the truth of essential human individual cluelessness, I've also encountered too often how fequently some one actually has a clue, but no one's listening. At least for quite a while, at the cost of much human suffering.

I continue to feel this way about OST. Maybe I'm deluding myself, but I've seen such amazing things happen when people are invited into Open Space. I can tell so much would be better if more of these invitations would happen, like ten years ago.

Open Space has been very helpful for me to get closer to those "people of the clue". I've encountered so many things at OST events that I can tell would make a key difference. For example Permaculture, Authentic Agile, Family Constellations, Ecstatic Dance, Peacemaking Circles...

But having a clue is only a seed. There's so much more for that to mature into something that bears fruit in real people's lives.

Well how does all of this relate to the concept of participant-facilitator? Making a living doing this space-holding stuff really demands we let go of what we think our clients need to do. The client is the stakeholder. It's best we only hold space for them (facilitate). We most certainly don't get a vote. Yet it's not really true we have no stake or "skin-in-the-game". If our clients do well, so do we.

To your original question:

/*As each of us closely watches our system(s) of interest, and supports emerging changes/adaptations that we consider positive, to what degree should we introduce our own ideas of where and how the system should proceed?

*/I've got answers as well as questions about this topic, but I've already typed too much. I'm curious. What are your thoughts?

Thanks again for opening this topic. And thanks to Harrison Owen and Tony Budak for building the initial invitations for this topic.

    Harold
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On 5/7/23 1:30 PM, John Warinner via OSList wrote:
Hi Harold,

Thanks for sharing your perspectives.

Yes, the role of Participant-Facilitator is familiar to me and akin to what I meant by Stakeholder-Spaceholder.  Most of my activity with OS/dialogue is also spent in that realm.

I am sensitive to your question about the degree of interest of others in this dialogue.

I suggested to Tony Budak that we may want to utilize his weekly Learning Cafe platform to provide those interested with a live, interactive dialogue on this topic.

Please let me know if you are aware of any other options for taking this conversation off-line out of respect for the OSList members who are not interested to observe and/or participate.

Thank you,
JohnW



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