I must disagree with you on your last point Harold. You were off to a good start, you did definitely not write too much.
On Mon, 8 May 2023, 22:45 Harold Shinsato via OSList, <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi John, > > There are many opportunities to invite and initiate around this theme of > "participant-facilitator" or "stakeholder-spaceholder". Probably an > overwhelming number of options. What might work? It does seem at least a > few here are interested. At least for now, I'd love to continue here on the > OSList. > > This topic really took off with Tony Budak's invitation around furthering > Harrison Owen's attempt to open space for an 8 billion person conversation. > His original invite to 8 billion in January 2019 was spoken via Zoom to > Opening Space for Peace and High Performance in NYC's International House, > an annual open space. His talk and invitation to 8 billion people was > published as a video - https://youtu.be/M_6dPhwJqbI. (In many ways, it > was one of Harrison's best talks, I highly recommend it!) > > Harrison has helped me understand that space is already open. I'll > paraphrase him poorly I'm sure, but our job with that knowledge is just to > increase our awareness of space already being open. We can always invite. > And to be okay with no one responding. If I still care, I can still move > the work forward, even by myself. Or with a small group. Most human > advances started with individuals and small groups. > > Tony's comments about peripheral small groups advancing the conversation > relates in this way to the topic of participant-facilitator. I've have > experienced and deeply resonate with what Tony summarized from the Damon > Centola work. Such insights are especially helpful to those who see > themselves as both spaceholders and stakeholders on this OSList forum. > > But what norms and behavior changes are really needed? A big aspect of > Harrison's perspective on this (and I haven't asked permission for any of > my paraphrasing, and I'd be happy to be corrected), is that no one of us > actually really has a clue. If they say they know, they're deceiving us, > themselves, or both. > > Although I resonate with the truth of essential human individual > cluelessness, I've also encountered too often how fequently some one > actually has a clue, but no one's listening. At least for quite a while, at > the cost of much human suffering. > > I continue to feel this way about OST. Maybe I'm deluding myself, but I've > seen such amazing things happen when people are invited into Open Space. I > can tell so much would be better if more of these invitations would happen, > like ten years ago. > > Open Space has been very helpful for me to get closer to those "people of > the clue". I've encountered so many things at OST events that I can tell > would make a key difference. For example Permaculture, Authentic Agile, > Family Constellations, Ecstatic Dance, Peacemaking Circles... > > But having a clue is only a seed. There's so much more for that to mature > into something that bears fruit in real people's lives. > > Well how does all of this relate to the concept of > participant-facilitator? Making a living doing this space-holding stuff > really demands we let go of what we think our clients need to do. The > client is the stakeholder. It's best we only hold space for them > (facilitate). We most certainly don't get a vote. Yet it's not really true > we have no stake or "skin-in-the-game". If our clients do well, so do we. > > To your original question: > > > > *As each of us closely watches our system(s) of interest, and > supports emerging changes/adaptations that we consider positive, to what > degree should we introduce our own ideas of where and how the system should > proceed? *I've got answers as well as questions about this topic, but > I've already typed too much. I'm curious. What are your thoughts? > > Thanks again for opening this topic. And thanks to Harrison Owen and Tony > Budak for building the initial invitations for this topic. > > Harold > > On 5/7/23 1:30 PM, John Warinner via OSList wrote: > > Hi Harold, > > Thanks for sharing your perspectives. > > Yes, the role of Participant-Facilitator is familiar to me and akin to > what I meant by Stakeholder-Spaceholder. Most of my activity with > OS/dialogue is also spent in that realm. > > I am sensitive to your question about the degree of interest of others in > this dialogue. > > I suggested to Tony Budak that we may want to utilize his weekly Learning > Cafe platform to provide those interested with a live, interactive dialogue > on this topic. > > Please let me know if you are aware of any other options for taking this > conversation off-line out of respect for the OSList members who are not > interested to observe and/or participate. > > Thank you, > JohnW > > > > -- > Harold Shinsato > [email protected] > https://shinsato.com > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list -- [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >
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