adding to birgitt... thinking further about the calling question... "learning" would seem to be only one part of the work required to "co-create" so i wonder if that doesn't fall out too. so the question is about co-creating. then, in the invite and opening, add learning. but also building, connecting, and other actions needed. and/or notice parts/types of learning like research, practice, teaching, credentialing, publishing, discovering, inventing, etc. but the largest question seems to be co-creating.
-- Michael Herman Michael Herman Associates 312-280-7838 (mobile) MichaelHerman.com OpenSpaceWorld.org On Sat, Mar 16, 2024 at 2:58 PM Michael Herman <[email protected]> wrote: > peggy... it was 2015, video was new and we'd never done it before. > <grin> lucas and i were the whole of the hosting team, it went for 3 or 4 > days, and we needed to sleep! > > -- > > Michael Herman > Michael Herman Associates > 312-280-7838 (mobile) > > MichaelHerman.com > OpenSpaceWorld.org > > > > > On Sat, Mar 16, 2024 at 1:11 PM Birgitt Williams via OSList < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Peggy, >> I would simplify the calling question to >> What can we learn from each other for co-creating a world that works for >> us all? >> >> Or What do we bring to the conversation for co-creating a world that >> works for us all? >> >> The concepts of amplify, generative connections, accelerate etc could >> well be topics that come up. >> >> There are significant advantages to working with Lucas and using Qiqo. >> Great to know that you are going to be in conversation with him. 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Super helpful! >>> >>> Lucas - I’ve added translated captions to my Zoom license so that the >>> working group, which spans Kenya, Colombia, The Netherlands, Israel, China, >>> and India, can try it during our next call. >>> >>> Bhavesh, thank you for the offer of help. I’ll reach out if we can’t >>> figure it out. I may reach out anyway. :-) >>> >>> Michael, I’m curious why two hours on/two hours off? That sounds >>> confusing to me. I’ve been imagining "morning/evening announcements/news” >>> every 8 hours with a host from that time zone. >>> >>> I have a bias towards Google docs for notes because of their simplicity. >>> We had a good experience with it when we had a 350-person online OS for >>> Reimagining >>> Bookstores <https://reimaginingbookstores.org/conversations/>. >>> Participants weren’t tech savvy but thanks to the pandemic, they were at >>> least familiar with Zoom. For what I’m up to now, I expect to be talking to >>> Lucas about QiqoChat. >>> >>> Funda, I had planned to share the theme with the OSlist when we were a >>> bit further along. Since you asked, the brief draft description of our >>> purpose: >>> >>> To create generative connections that support people and organizations >>> who are co-creating a world that works for all. Generative connections >>> invite novel possibilities that open hearts, cultivate empathy and >>> belonging, generate energy and resources, and inspire action. >>> >>> The current draft of the calling question for the Open Space: >>> >>> What can we learn from each other to amplify and accelerate co-creating >>> a world that works for all? >>> >>> Here’s a very rough invitation >>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VfvLprdIyr8JiRZGY8e6aLX7gGjzzueTJYY58BXSs_I/edit?usp=sharing>. >>> Comments welcome! >>> >>> More soon... >>> Peggy >>> >>> >>> On Mar 15, 2024, at 11:35 AM, Michael Herman via OSList < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> my first rule for good online open space, peggy... is to do good open >>> space. make the tech serve what you already know about os. then, re: >>> tech, with multiple languages, the best tech is that which requires the >>> least explanation. >>> >>> i've had good experiences with mural, and found it allows and supports >>> all the messiness that we see in an on-site meeting/bulletin board. that >>> said, google docs/sheets are probably less explanation required. and even >>> email or listserv or any other tools these folks might already be using >>> would be my favorites. also, the more the group knows about the tools >>> coming in, the better equipped they are to take responsibility for solving >>> each other's tech issues, if/when they arise... like we see happen when >>> meeting in person. >>> >>> the timing and timezones might be bigger challenge than languages. >>> lucas and i ran 2 hrs on, 2 hrs off for the vosonos in 2015, round the >>> clock for a few days. with clients i've mostly stuck pretty close to the >>> 1.5 hour sessions in the user's guide. less is still more when it comes to >>> inventing things to address "what could happen" and trying to "take care of >>> people." >>> >>> the one thing that cuts through a bunch of this, tech, visibility (which >>> is the thing we need to boost when we can't look around the same room), and >>> presence is that i've used a gathering time, normally the coffee and donuts >>> time, to have people put their name, location, org info on a sticky and put >>> it on one end of our mural wall. once people do that, they know how to do >>> everything. they're ready. they're sitting in the exposure of the front >>> row of the circle. no excuses for not posting an issue, and a chance for >>> people to ask for help and get it from others in the circle, not the >>> facilitator. >>> >>> and back to my opening thought, just like the news wall in physical >>> space, i'm a big believer in getting notes from conveners to all >>> participants, with whatever tool we choose. with many languages, it might >>> be useful to have them posted, even as a second copy, in a page on the web >>> that each participant can ask google or whatever to translate. i.e. some >>> online news wall tools might make instant in-browser translation easier >>> than others. i usually catch the session reports by email, like we used to >>> shuttle 3.5" disks between machines in the old days. sometimes there are >>> ways for ppts to post their notes directly to some platform, but if i'm >>> responsible for delivering a finished compilation of all the notes, i still >>> want to be sure i have a local copy of everything. and if i'm the one >>> posting the reports to all ppts, it gives me a chance to tidy up and >>> standardize formatting, and gently, quietly raise the bar in terms of the >>> tidiness of what subsequent conveners deliver to me in the first place. >>> >>> glad to talk about what i've done in mural, if you drift in the >>> direction of a platform like that. >>> >>> m >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Michael Herman >>> Michael Herman Associates >>> 312-280-7838 (mobile) >>> >>> MichaelHerman.com <http://michaelherman.com/> >>> OpenSpaceWorld.org <http://openspaceworld.org/> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 10:55 AM Bhavesh Patel via OSList < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I have played with the zoom captions and they do work but it can be a >>>> bit tricky to switch between all the languages... we can play around with >>>> it Peggy... let me know... >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, 15 Mar 2024 at 02:32, Lucas Cioffi via OSList < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear Peggy, >>>>> >>>>> *Captions* >>>>> I believe Zoom charges $5 to add the functionality for translated >>>>> captions to a zoom license. From their website >>>>> <https://www.zoom.com/en/blog/translated-captions/>, they now provide >>>>> captions in 35 languages. This means someone can speak in French and >>>>> someone else can read it in Spanish. Given all the combinations of 35 >>>>> languages translated into 34 other languages (1190 combinations), online >>>>> open space creates some exciting possibilities. This is something to test >>>>> out with a handful of co-organizers early in the planning stage. So much >>>>> changes so quickly related to Zoom translations every few months, usually >>>>> for the better. Previously they used to only translate from English into >>>>> 12 languages, but if I'm reading it correctly, you can now speak any of 35 >>>>> languages and the captions will work. I have not tested this out. >>>>> >>>>> *Tech Check for Participants* >>>>> The small friction in the beginning of the open space is that users >>>>> might need to select their own speaking language in Zoom. The Zoom menus >>>>> are a little clunky. You can read the part from the link above that >>>>> "translated captions users can select their own speaking language within a >>>>> meeting". It's probably about 4 clicks so it's not very easy, but maybe >>>>> you can get most people to do this by dropping into one of several >>>>> optional >>>>> tech checks a few days before the event which I would recommend. Or >>>>> sharing instructions with screenshots or a screen recording is also >>>>> helpful >>>>> a few days before the event begins, but most people will not read/watch >>>>> them. Fortunately when you have a critical mass of people who understand >>>>> what they need to do, then the others will not complain and will quietly >>>>> figure it out. >>>>> >>>>> *Bulletin Board* >>>>> A Google sheet is my preferred way of letting people name their >>>>> sessions and select the space where they want to meet. Since everyone >>>>> will >>>>> use the same Google sheet, it would be good to label the columns and rows >>>>> in multiple languages. Other facilitators like a Miro board. >>>>> >>>>> *Instructions* >>>>> When people host an event on Qiqo, we can display the instructions on >>>>> the buttons in 20 languages. You can also write up different instructions >>>>> about Open Space in different languages and Qiqo will display the version >>>>> that matches the language the user has selected. >>>>> >>>>> Good luck to you and your team! >>>>> >>>>> <http://qiqo.pro/lucas> >>>>> >>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/lucascioffi/> >>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgPe9GmmaZABxO23TWkfLRQ> >>>>> <http://qiqo.pro/lucas> >>>>> Lucas Cioffi | *CTO & Co-Founder *| *QiqoChat Inc.* >>>>> Woman & Veteran-owned >>>>> e: [email protected] m: 917-528-1831 >>>>> >>>>> <https://qiqochat.com/about> >>>>> Helping organizations achieve their mission through conferences, >>>>> communities, & marketplaces. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 6:57 PM Peggy Holman via OSList < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> I’m working with a group via the Berrett-Koehler Foundation >>>>>> <https://www.bkfoundation.org/> that is in the early stages of >>>>>> designing the first of what may become a series of global, online Open >>>>>> Space convenings. We’d like to learn from those who have already done >>>>>> something like this. >>>>>> >>>>>> What have you done? What worked that you would do again? What didn’t >>>>>> work and what would you do differently? What surprised you? >>>>>> >>>>>> How long was the OS you ran? What rhythm did you use for morning and >>>>>> evening news? For breakout sessions? >>>>>> >>>>>> In short, what counsel do you have? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *And then there’s the language challenge…* >>>>>> >>>>>> Since we expect people from multiple countries, any insights into >>>>>> supporting multi-lingual online Open Space? >>>>>> >>>>>> When I’ve been in in-person multi-lingual Open Spaces, sessions are >>>>>> posted in the language the session is held in. And people act as >>>>>> translators for those who need support. All is good. >>>>>> >>>>>> How does being online make things easier or harder? >>>>>> Any tools that you recommend? Or ways to quickly spot people who need >>>>>> translation support or who can translate? >>>>>> >>>>>> What have you discovered that works? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for any counsel on these questions. >>>>>> >>>>>> Appreciatively, >>>>>> Peggy >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _________________________________ >>>>>> Peggy Holman >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>> Bellevue, WA 98006 >>>>>> 206-948-0432 >>>>>> www.peggyholman.com >>>>>> >>>>>> Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval >>>>>> into Opportunity <https://peggyholman.com/papers/engaging-emergence/> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "An angel told me that the only way to step into the fire and not get >>>>>> burnt, is to become >>>>>> the fire". >>>>>> -- Drew Dellinger >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> OSList mailing list -- [email protected] >>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>>>> See the archives here: >>>>>> https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org >>>>> >>>>> OSList mailing list -- [email protected] >>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>>> See the archives here: >>>>> https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org >>>> >>>> OSList mailing list -- [email protected] >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>> See the archives here: >>>> https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org >>> >>> OSList mailing list -- [email protected] >>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>> See the archives here: >>> https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org >>> >>> >>> OSList mailing list -- [email protected] >>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>> See the archives here: >>> https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org >> >> OSList mailing list -- [email protected] >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> See the archives here: >> https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org > >
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