Le Mardi 11 Juillet 2006 21:52, 1Z a écrit :
> Bruno Marchal wrote:
> > Le 11-juil.-06, à 16:24, 1Z a écrit :
> > Now if you assume "primary matter", no doubt you need to reject comp,
> > giving that what I show is that you cannot have both.
> Brains are material. Computers are material.

I think you misunderstand something here (or I do). I think when bruno talk 
about matter (and always emphasis it with primary), it really means "primary 
reality"... That said, it means (taking as an example the movie the matrix), 
that when neo wake up after taking the red pill and is welcome by Morpheus 
saying "Welcome to the real world" is not true... There can't be a "real 
world" in this sense, a primary world where the other reality is emulated in 
a stuffy computer, a world which is at the beginning of the emulated chain... 
The computer who runs the matrix in the Morpheus real world (so outside the 
so called matrix) is as stuffy as the computer running the matrix inside the 


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