Le 10-oct.-06, à 03:52, Russell Standish a écrit :
> > On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 10:35:05AM -0700, 1Z wrote: >> >> The idea that materialism is not compatible with computationalism >> is a bold and startling claim. > > Materialism comes in a couple of different flavours. The one that COMP > is incompatible with is "eliminative materialism", also sometimes > known as physicalism. Comp has indeed be shown to be incompatible with physicalism (the doctrine that physics is the fundamental science). But physicalism is not necessarily eliminativist. Most physicalist believes in consciousness, even if they believe that consciousness emerges from the behavior of some putative "matter". Eliminative materialist does not believe in consciousness or first person at all. Some says this explicitly, others are unclear or just incoherent. Comp is not incompatible with the existence of primary or primitive matter, but the UDA shows that comp has to be incompatible with any relation between that matter and the *appearance* of matter or of physical laws; making matter and material universe(s) as useless as invisible horse pulling cars. Bruno http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
