Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
> On 01/06/07, *Torgny Tholerus* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>     I am unconscious.
>     I have no mind.  I have no feelings.  I have no perceptions.  I am
>     not thinking.  I am just a machine that claims that I am conscious. 
>     The only thing that happens is a lot of chemical reactions in my
>     brain.  (Or rather, there are a lot of mathematical relations...)
>     I just behave AS IF I am conscious.  If you interview me, I will
>     answer that I am conscious.  I will strongly claim that I am
>     thinking, and that is the only thing I am really sure of.
>     But that is a lie.  The only thing that exists is a lot of protons,
>     neutrons, and electrons reacting with each other inside my brain.
>     I behave AS IF I am conscious because the natural selection has
>     favored that type of behavior.
> Which implies you really are conscious, because otherwise why would 
> evolution have gone to the trouble of making *me* conscious if it could 
> have got away without it?
> -- 
> Stathis Papaioannou

How do you know it was "trouble" - maybe it's a probable spandrel, or maybe 
it's even a necessary effect.

Brent Meeker

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