On Nov 9, 2008, at 3:51 AM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
> Bruno, as I understand him, does not believe that you need a basic
> physical world in order to implement a computation; rather, it is the
> computation that gives rise to the physical world.
That's also how I understand him. And, in fact, I believe something
similar (if not identical). My point is that a staunchly anti-zombie
philosopher like Dennett would still need convincing, and appealing to
his (Dennett's) own anti-zombie leanings wouldn't be enough to
> This is in step 8
> of the UDA, probably the most counterintuitive and most difficult to
> grasp part of the argument.
Actually, I find it the easiest part of the whole thing to understand.
But to echo something someone else said earlier in this thread, I
think Bruno's arguments for step 8 could be shored up. As they stand,
they wouldn't convince a philosopher like Dennett. But they should be
able to. (In principle. In practice, philosophers are rarely convinced
by anyone else's arguments on any issue.)
Maybe I still don't fully understand Bruno's position. If I were
making the argument, his step 8 would be my step 1.
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