Bruno, I was just quoting you: "And if you do the math, you get a physics extracted from mechanism, and you can use it to confirm mechanism or to refute it." Did you mean "refutes materialism"?
Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 19 Nov 2008, at 16:01, m.a. wrote: > >> *So you're saying that a "physics extracted from mechanism" which >> (let's assume) refutes mechanism, * > > > If a physics extracted from mechanism refutes mechanism, then > mechanism is refuted. (p implies not p) is equivalent with (not p). > > I guess you meant "refutes materialism". One main point is that > physics extracted logically from comp could be refuted by the > experimental facts, and this would lead to an experimental refutation > of comp. > > Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> Hi m.a. >>> >>> >>> if mechanism is true, then the "physical universe" appears to be >>> the border of the universal machine "ignorance". The cosmos is the >>> tip of the iceberg. And the laws of physics are really something >>> which evolved, yet not in a space time, but in a logical space >>> gluing the possible machine "dreams". I am not saying this is true, >>> only that it is a consequence of the seemingly innocent (for some >>> naturalist) mechanist hypothesis. >>> >>> It gives a way to justify the why and how of physical laws, and >>> this from mechanism, and this without making the (ad hoc) assumption >>> of a physical universe. _*And if you do the math, you get a physics >>> extracted from mechanism, and you can use it to confirm mechanism or >>> to refute it.*_ >>> >>> You can take the reasoning train which is currently passing. Mainly >>> the MGA can be understood by patient layman having some notion of >>> digital machine. >>> >>> Bruno >>> >>> >>> >>> http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ <http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/%7Emarchal/> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ <http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/%7Emarchal/> > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---