Bruno: Can you explain your Physics statement in more detail, which I can understand? Ronald
On May 13, 11:30 am, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote: > Thanks Russell, I will take a look. At first sight he makes the same > "error" with numbers that Wolfram makes with cellular automata. Those > are still mathematical form of physicalism, incompatible with the > mechanist thesis in the cognitive science. Of course we converge > toward rather similar (recursively isomorphic or weakened) ontologies. > But they seems to believe they can recover some physics from that, > where, saying "yes" to the surgeon requires to abandon that very idea. > Physics, like in Plato and Plotinus, is not a mathematical structure > among others, it is a mathematical structure which relate all > mathematical structures in a precise way. Physics is somehow much more > fundamental than being a thing completely describable by a set of > mechanical laws. > Pu in another way, such theories are unaware of the mind-body problem > and still use an identity relation between a mind and a implementation > of a program which UDA forces to abandon, to be frank. > This does not mean those works are uninteresting of course, and they > may play some role in the unravelling of the Minds and Bodies > problems. Sure. > > Bruno > > On 13 May 2009, at 01:15, russell standish wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi Bruno, > > > Have you come across Victor Korotkikh's stuff? He's got a recent > > article out in Complexity: > > >http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/121426751/abstract?CRETRY=... > > > (Complexity, 14, 40-46) > > > It basically explores the organisational properties of the integers, > > prime numbers etc. Which is kind of interesting in a pure mathematical > > way, but he then uses this to model real complex systems, emergent > > properties and so on. If you can't get the above paper, here is a much > > earlier one that is not behind a paywall: > >http://www.complexity.org.au/ci/vol03/victor2/ > > > I've met him a few times over the years - he's based in Townsville, > > about 2000km north of here. He's an intense Russian who's presentation > > is almost impenetrable - but there are people I respect who consider > > him a genius. > > > It struck me this morning how similar in many ways his programme is to > > yours. I suppose you both share a strong neo-platonic viewpoint for > > starters. > > > Cheers > > > -- > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) > > Mathematics > > UNSW SYDNEY 2052 hpco...@hpcoders.com.au > > Australia http://www.hpcoders.com.au > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---