on 18.09.2010 23:35 Brent Meeker said the following:
On 9/18/2010 12:19 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
on 18.09.2010 21:09 Brent Meeker said the following:
On 9/18/2010 9:20 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
on 18.09.2010 18:08 1Z said the following:


By the way, about the water. The difference between H, O
and H2O is in chemical bonds in H2O.

such bonds can be considered basic elements of reality, too

I am not sure if I understand your answer. Say we have H2 and
O2 at room temperature in some enclosure. Then we put a
catalyst there and if the enclosure is strong enough, then we
obtain there water, H20. The question is then what happened
with bonds in H2 and O2 and where from come new bonds in H20?
The bonds in H2, 02 and H20 are completely different from each

Why do you think they are completely different? They are just
local energy minima in the wave functions of the outer

It could be that the word completely is not quite right. Sure they
are similar in respect that this is an interplay between nuclei and
 electrons. Yet, what I have meant, that their properties are quite
 different. Say the OO bond in O2 and the HH bond in H2 are not the
 same. This also concerns H0 bonds in HOH.

But they are "the same" at the level of QED, i.e. they are described
by the same theory and in fact exist in a superposition of the states
2H20 <--> 2H2 + O2.

You forget here about level of designing drugs and new materials. Can a physicist specialized in QED do it? I guess no, here one has to hire a chemist.

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