On Feb 12, 9:05 am, Quentin Anciaux <[email protected]> wrote: > 2011/2/12 1Z <[email protected]> > > > > > > > On Feb 11, 11:50 pm, Quentin Anciaux <[email protected]> wrote: > > > 2011/2/11 1Z <[email protected]> > > > > > On Feb 10, 1:24 pm, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On 09 Feb 2011, at 16:49, 1Z wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 8, 6:17 pm, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> On 07 Feb 2011, at 23:58, 1Z wrote: > > > > > > >>> On Feb 7, 6:29 pm, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >>>> Peter, > > > > > > >>>> Everything is fine. You should understand the reasoning by using > > > > > >>>> only > > > > > >>>> the formal definition of "arithmetical realism", > > > > > > >>> You reasoning *cannot* be both valid and ontologically > > > > > >>> neutral because it has ontological conclusions. > > > > > > >> Wrong. > > > > > > > Wrong about what? > > > > > > You were wrong on the idea that an argument cannot be valid and > > > > > ontological. It is enough that the premises have ontological clauses. > > > > > So which is the ontological premise? You don't say > > > > that Platonism is an explicit premise. But it isn't > > > > a corollary of CT either. > > > > The ontological premise is that *you* could be replaced by *a digital > > brain* > > > in other word a program and still be you. > > > That just repeats the same ambiguity. Is the programe supposed to be > > physically > > instantiated as patterns of electrical charge in circuitry, or > > floating around in Plato's heaven. > > When I program, I don't care about circuitry, I care about what the program > does.
It does nothing without circuitry. >The circuitry add nothing from this POV. Choosing to ignore things doesn't make them non-existent. >The only thing cicuitry add > is the possible interaction I can have with the program, ie, reality > and that is > absolutely necessary if I wan't to interact with it. But that doesn't change > the program in itself. There is no programme itself without instantiation (including instantiation in your brain) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
