1Z wrote: > > > > On Feb 17, 3:10 pm, benjayk <benjamin.jaku...@googlemail.com> wrote: >> 1Z wrote: >> >> >> >> Comp will imply that such a primary matter cannnot interfer at all >> >> >> with your consciousness, so that IF comp is correct physics has to >> be >> >> >> reduced to number theory, and such a primary matter is an invisible >> >> >> epiphenomena. >> >> >> > Physics cannot be eliminated in favour of non existent numbers. >> >> > Numbers >> >> > have to exist for the conclusion to follow >> >> >> Physics is not eliminated, on the contrary, physics is explained from >> >> >> something non physical. >> >> > The anti realist position is not that numbers are some existing non- >> > physical >> > thing: it is that they are not existent at all. >> >> If numbers don't exist at all, what does a statement that seems very much >> like a non-fictional and true statement, like "I have two hands" mean? > > It's asserting the existence of hands, not numbers.
You can't have one without the other. The statement "2 hands exists" requires that "2 of something" (the number 2) exists. 1Z wrote: > >> If you have two hands, two does exists, otherwise you couldn't have two >> of >> something, right? > > And if you have none of something, none exists. Well, so zero exists, I have no problem with that. 1Z wrote: > >> Or is it a fictional statement? >> > Nope. You seem to think every word in a true sentence must > have a separate referent. However, "and", "or", "is", "not" etc > do not have separate referents. A true sentence must refer *as a > whole* > to some state of affairs. That is the only requirement. Not every word must have an object as referent, but every word implies the existence of an object that is connected to the word. If it is meaningful to use the word "and", "something and something" or a conjunction exists, if it is meaningful to use the word "or", "something or something" or a disjunction exists, if it is meaningful to use the word "is", "something existing" or simply existence exists, if it is meaningful to use the word "not", "something that does not exist" or absence exist (existing in the absolute sense and not existing relative to something else) and if if it is meaningful to use the word "two", "two of something" or the number 2 exists. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Maudlin---How-many-times-does-COMP-have-to-be-false-before-its-false--tp30792507p30952212.html Sent from the Everything List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
