On Feb 17, 3:10 pm, benjayk <benjamin.jaku...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> 1Z wrote:
> >> >> Comp will imply that such a primary matter cannnot interfer at all
> >> >> with your consciousness, so that IF comp is correct physics has to be
> >> >> reduced to number theory, and such a primary matter is an invisible
> >> >> epiphenomena.
> >> > Physics cannot be eliminated in favour of non existent numbers.
> >> > Numbers
> >> > have to exist for the conclusion to follow
> >> Physics is not eliminated, on the contrary, physics is explained from  
> >> something non physical.
> > The anti realist position is not that numbers are some existing non-
> > physical
> > thing: it is that they are not existent at all.
> If numbers don't exist at all, what does a statement that seems very much
> like a non-fictional and true statement, like "I have two hands" mean?

It's asserting the existence of hands, not numbers.

> If you have two hands, two does exists, otherwise you couldn't have two of
> something, right?

And if you have none of something, none exists.

> Or is it a fictional statement?
Nope. You seem to think every word in a true sentence must
have a separate referent. However, "and", "or", "is", "not" etc
do not have separate referents. A true sentence must refer *as a
to some state of affairs. That is the only requirement.

> But this is obviously absurd! - Except if you accept that fictional things
> are, too, real in a sense, but this would mean that "fictional"
> numbers/computation can indeed be what determines the appearance of the
> physical.
> Or numbers are material things and numbers give rise to (in this case) the
> rest of material things. In this case your sense of material is quite
> akward, though.
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