I won't answer to this post in detail, simply because I find it unsatisfying to discuss details that are very easy to see for me, yet hardly communicable. Honestly, for all intents and purposes I have come to the conclusion that it is just totally irrelevant to me whether COMP is true or false, which renders the discussion about it's consequences moot. I believe in the consequences that I like either way.
It seems to me all theoretical understanding is just a tool for emotional understanding anyway. Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> >> >> Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> >>> Just that current humans still look for authoritative arguments, in >>> all direction. I'm afraid I will have to come back next millennium. >> You are right. I am more optimistic, though, I would advise you to >> take a >> shot next century ;). > > When I was young I was sure that computers, the UMs, would become > personal objects, but I thought it would take one of two century, not > 1/2 century; so you may be right. I was also pretty sure prohibition > would fall down before 2000. I was wrong. > So you may be right: next century perhaps. But I maight be right too. > On conceptual thing, human are slow. Look how much people around you > still believe that cannabis should be illegal, and that is only about > a century of brainwashing. Aristotle theology is more than 1500 years > of brainwashing, helped by billionth years of evolution. Those things > will take time, even if salvia and plants might accelerate things, a > little bit. I think if enough people discover genuine love, there might be a chain reaction that gets us to heaven on earth quicker than we can imagine :). I've come to the belief that's it's really ALL about love (first and foremost love towards yourself). Even science is about love (towards knowledge, progress, modesty,... - actually all very important things even outside of science). We just need to see that and then the rest will follow! And we can't calculate love. It's the true singularity :). So let me just say that I love your attempt to free people from materialist brainwashing :). That 's really one of the most important beliefs to let go off. How could you be really happy if you think everything is guided by something that doesn't care about any well-being? Maybe it's love guiding it after all (would you identify arithmetical truth and love?). benjayk -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Mathematical-closure-of-consciousness-and-computation-tp31771136p32349140.html Sent from the Everything List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
