On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 05:27:43PM -0800, Craig Weinberg wrote: > On Jan 26, 5:52 pm, Russell Standish <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Jan 26, 1:19 am, Pierz <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > of my own here: no properties can emerge from a complex system that > > > are not present in primitive form in the parts of that system. There > > > > What about gliders emerging from the rules of Game of Life? There are > > no primitive form gliders in the transition table, nor in static cells > > of the grid. > > There is nothing to the gliders except transitions of the static > cells. The interpretation that there is a visual pattern gliding is > only our perception of it. It's Beta movement. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_movement > > Craig >
Exactly. It is an emergent phenomenon that is not "present in in primitive form in the parts of the system". All emergent phenomena are in the "eye of the beholder", but that doesn't make them less real. Unless you're saying the gliders don't exist at all, but that doesn't appear to be the case here, as why would you label a non-existent phenomenon "beta movement". > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Principal, High Performance Coders Visiting Professor of Mathematics [email protected] University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
