2012/2/16 meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> > On 2/16/2012 11:38 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > > > 2012/2/16 meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> > >> On 2/16/2012 11:15 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote: >> >> All of this substitution stuff is predicated upon the possibility >>> that the brain can be emulated by a Universal Turing Machine. It would be >>> helpful if we first established that a Turing Machine is capable of what we >>> are assuming it do be able to do. I am pretty well convinced that it cannot >>> >> >> Well at least, you state now that you think comp is simply false... so >> it's just trolling about it, when you just reject the premices... >> >> >> It's not trolling when Stephen believes it and is willing to argue >> rationally for it. >> >> > It is trolling when you ask computationalism to be something else as > computationalism (the view that the human mind is an information processing > system, can be run on a UTM). He simply reject the premices, so there no > point to argue to the conclusion of the UD argument when you stop at step > 0... If you reject from the start, the logical conclusion is that you > reject all the step, no point to argue on step 7, when you stop on step 0. > > > I don't agree. You may find an error in an inference and that's useful, > whether you agree with the premises or not. >
Sure... but the argument of Stephen about "physical world" is the rejection of step 0 and not an error in the inference. That's why I call that a troll. > A discussion list isn't about people arriving at a decision. > I agree. > I find Craig to be more troll-like because his arguments are such > scatter-gun analogies - but I think he's sincere and not a troll. > > Brent > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > -- All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to email@example.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.