2012/2/16 meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net>
> On 2/16/2012 11:38 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
> 2012/2/16 meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net>
>> On 2/16/2012 11:15 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
>> All of this substitution stuff is predicated upon the possibility
>>> that the brain can be emulated by a Universal Turing Machine. It would be
>>> helpful if we first established that a Turing Machine is capable of what we
>>> are assuming it do be able to do. I am pretty well convinced that it cannot
>> Well at least, you state now that you think comp is simply false... so
>> it's just trolling about it, when you just reject the premices...
>> It's not trolling when Stephen believes it and is willing to argue
>> rationally for it.
> It is trolling when you ask computationalism to be something else as
> computationalism (the view that the human mind is an information processing
> system, can be run on a UTM). He simply reject the premices, so there no
> point to argue to the conclusion of the UD argument when you stop at step
> 0... If you reject from the start, the logical conclusion is that you
> reject all the step, no point to argue on step 7, when you stop on step 0.
> I don't agree. You may find an error in an inference and that's useful,
> whether you agree with the premises or not.
Sure... but the argument of Stephen about "physical world" is the rejection
of step 0 and not an error in the inference. That's why I call that a troll.
> A discussion list isn't about people arriving at a decision.
> I find Craig to be more troll-like because his arguments are such
> scatter-gun analogies - but I think he's sincere and not a troll.
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