On Sun, Mar 11, 2012  David Nyman <da...@davidnyman.com> wrote:

> John, I hope you will not think me impertinent, but you're expending a
> great deal of time and energy arguing with an elaborate series of
> straw men.  No doubt this is great fun and highly entertaining, but
> would you consider the alternative of requesting clarification of the
> real point at issue?  It's painful to see you repeatedly arguing past
> it.

If your thinking were clear and you understood what " the real point at
issue" was and you knew of a key question I have not answered you would
have certainly asked it somewhere in the above; but you did not I think
because you could not, and that fact makes me believe your thinking is
naive simplistic and commonplace.  Prove me wrong.

  John K Clark

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