On Apr 29, 8:37 pm, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On 4/29/2012 3:22 AM, 1Z wrote:
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> > On Apr 27, 11:19 pm, meekerdb<meeke...@verizon.net>  wrote:
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> >>>> That's why I said, except for people who believe in philosophical 
> >>>> zombies.
> >>>> Brent
> >>> A quailess AI isn;t a p-zombie. A p-zombie is physically identical to
> >>> a human. An AI will be
> >>> made out of silicon or something, which could naturalsitically explain
> >>> its lack of qualia.
> >>> That is a different matter. With the possible exception of Craig, we
> >>> all think our  toasters are
> >>> zombies.
> >> But if our robots behave as intelligently as humans we (except Craig) will 
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> >> have qualia too.
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> >> Brent
> > I don't see e why. We already don't, i n several senses. We don't
> > attribute qualia to gadget that are
> > smarter than us at specific tasks such as playing chess. We also don't
> > expect sci fi AIs such as Mr DataA
> > to havea emotions or qualia...in fact we seem to have the intuition
> > that they are qualiless *because* they
> > are so one sidedly logical. Why would qualia help with intelligence
> > anyway? If our AIs showed aesthetic  flair,
> > empathy, artistic creatviity etc, that would be another matter. How
> > could you be a great painter without colour
> > qualia? But that's not exactly intelligence.
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> By 'behave intelligently' I intended to convey 'with purpose and reflection' 
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> 'logical'.

Why would reflection (higher order thought), or purpose, require
qualia?

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