On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote: >> There are incompatible from the "1-pov" ONLY if you assume there can be >> only one Bruno Marchal >> > > > "1-pov" means "1-pov" from the 1-pov view. >
That's real nice, but the predictions written down in advance were: 1) I Bruno Marchal will write in my diary "I Bruno Marchal am now in Washington and only Washington". 2) I Bruno Marchal will write in my diary "I Bruno Marchal am now in Moscow and only Moscow". Without making silly assumptions like there can be only one Bruno Marchal show me how these predictions were wrong from ANY perspective you care to name. > There is only one. > Even if there is "only one" I they third party outside observer agree with you, the "1-pov" from the 1-pov view" about your diary entry and it's accuracy. > Even if I am duplicated into 10^100, all of them will have a unique pov. > If there were 10^100 cities then before the experiment you would write down 10^100 predictions in your diary and after the experiment all 10^100 Brunos would read what they had written in their diary and say "I was right". So where is this "first person indeterminacy" you keep talking about? > >> just look and see what was written in the diary before the experiment > started, it's right there clear as a bell in black and white. So where is > this spectral "first person indeterminacy" you keep talking about? > > > The incompatible experience "I feel to be in M" and "I feel to be in W". > After the experience we can interview the two copies, and they will confirm > it. > Yes, they will confirm that they feel exactly as they predicted they would feel, and there was nothing incompatible in the prediction. > > It helps to understand that from the 1-pov, the experience was not > predictible. > You, Bruno Marchal, are now in Washington and you write in your diary "I Bruno Marchal am now in Washington and only Washington". Then you, Bruno Washington, receive a fax from Bruno Moscow and see that he wrote in his diary "I Bruno Marchal am now in Moscow and only Moscow". Please show me what was in error in the predictions from ANY point of view. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.