On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote: > Step 2 is that the diary of the one teleported does not mention the > delays of reconstitution in absence of third person clue. >
Obviously true. > Step 3, is that no machine can predict the content of its personal future > diaries content in self-multiplication experience. > Not counting quantum randomness the only reason the many diaries will be different is that the many authors of those many diaries, you, end up in different environments. So "step 3" is just a convoluted way of saying that you can't always predict how environmental factors will change nor how those factors will effect you, which is just a convoluted way of saying that you never know what new things the universe will throw at you, which is just a convoluted way of saying that predicting is hard, especially the future. > By the comp assumption, they can be copied and put in two different > environments, so that they will differentiate, > Yes. > and that is why they cannot predict their experience, even in a prior > state of complete information of the issuing protocol. > If you really had complete information then you could make 2 predictions: 1) I Bruno Marchal will write in my diary "I Bruno Marchal am now in Washington and only Washington". 2) I Bruno Marchal will write in my diary "I Bruno Marchal am now in Moscow and only Moscow". Both predictions will turn out to be 100% correct; a very odd situation certainly but it is paradoxical only if you make the totally unwarranted assumption that there can only be one Bruno Marchal, and without that assumption assigning probabilities to the question "what city will I end up in?" is pointless because "I" is not defined. >Mot plausibly two minds because complex self-reference is chaotic and mind > state diverge from very little difference. > Maybe, but I doubt if it's like the butterfly effect, I doubt if its quite as sensitive as that, otherwise we would not be observing personality traits in people that persist, largely unchanged, for many decades. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.