On 3 July 2012 08:09, Stathis Papaioannou <stath...@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm pretty sure John understands the argument but he prefers to give > primacy to the objective/third-person viewpoint. The first-person > viewpoint involves an assumption that I am a single person travelling > through time in the forward direction, which when looked at > objectively is an illusion. Some people are offended by illusions. > If that is indeed the case, Stathis, it would spare us all a great deal of pointless argument if he simply made this preference as explicit as you have just done. If that is what we are talking about, then I agree that the subjective experience of moving forwards in time is essentially illusory, in the sense that each individuated first-person perspective obscures a deeper, more general level of explanation. But the indeterminacy being discussed here precisely concerns appearances from the individuated perspective; the "illusion" itself, if you like. This is the whole point of the argument. Hence attempting to evade it by dint of substituting an "objective" description is an absolutely classic example of a straw man. David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
