On Wed, Jun 27, 2012  meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:

> I think the claim that, "It's either determined or random." is
> misleading. Thoughts and actions may be determined in the sense of
> constrained to a fairly narrow probability distribution, and yet random.

it is a deterministic certainty that a coin flip will never turn into an
ostrich and will always produce a heads or a tails, but if it came up tails
it did so for a reason or it did not do so for a reason. And you may have
inherited the risk taking gene so it is determined that you like to take
dangerous adventurous vacations; there is a reason you have that
personality trait, but you may have picked climbing Mt. Everest rather than
the Matterhorn for no reason at all, it was random. But what does the "free
will" noise have to do with any of this?

  John K Clark

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