On 02 Jul 2012, at 20:12, meekerdb wrote:

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On 7/2/2012 7:36 AM, Jason Resch wrote:Do you really not see any difference between tables and chairs andpeople and numbers,Chairs and people are also mathematical objects, just reallycomplex ones with a large information content. This is thenecessary conclusion of anyone who believes physical laws aremathematical.No, it's a necessary conclusion of anyone who cannot distinguish adescription from the thing described.

`I can follow you on this. the fact that the chair obeys mathematical`

`laws does not logically entail per se that the chair is a mathematical`

`object. But comp does not give any choice in the matter, as I have`

`already explain.`

`A non mathematical chair cannot select a mathematical comp`

`consciousness without both the chair and the consciousness being non`

`Turing emulable. Your argument might apply on Tegmark, but obviously`

`Tegmark does not take the 1-comp indeterminacy into account.`

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