On 02 Jul 2012, at 21:01, meekerdb wrote:
On 7/2/2012 11:21 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 1:12 PM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net>
On 7/2/2012 7:36 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
Do you really not see any difference between tables and chairs and
people and numbers,
Chairs and people are also mathematical objects, just really
complex ones with a large information content. This is the
necessary conclusion of anyone who believes physical laws are
No, it's a necessary conclusion of anyone who cannot distinguish a
description from the thing described.
I think the identity of indiscernibles applies: If no distinction
can ever be made (by observers within a mathematical universe and
observers within a physical universe) then there is no
distinction. You are using "physical" as an honorific, but it adds
I can point to a chair and say "This!"
This proves that relatively to you some token are selected. This
happens provably so in arithmetic (in comp) and so cannot be an
argument to distinguish physical and mathematical.
The fact is that we have no evidence for something primitively
physical, and we already know that it does not exist (in any genuine
sense) in the comp theory of mind/matter.
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