To fix a typo
On 7/19/2012 3:46 PM, Stephen P. King wrote:
Dear Bruno,
I need to slow down and just address this question of your as it
seems to be the point where we disconnect from understanding each other.
On 7/19/2012 10:22 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
At this stage I will ask you to define "physical".
The physical is the represented as the sum of incontrovertible
<http://www.thefreedictionary.com/incontrovertible> facts that
mutually communicating observers have in common. It is those facts
that cannot be denied without introducing contradictions, thus such
things as "hallucinations" and "mirages" are excluded. I guess that
this definition might seem tautological, but it seems to me to be the
explanation that has the longest reach in its power to explain what is
meant by the word. Additionally, physical refers to "objects of the
world" that have the qualities of persistence in type and location.
One might notice that if one only considers a single observer then
the notion of the physical that would be associated with that singular
observer becomes degenerate. Maybe this explains how it is that you
come to the conclusion of UDA step 8, that, as you wrote in SANE 04
"...not only physics has been/epistemologically/reduced to machine
psychology, but that "matter" has been /ontologically/reduced to
"mind" where mind is defined as the object study of fundamental
machine psychology." The idea that "matter" is ontologically reduced
to "mind" is true but but only for the singular mind. One must reach
outside of this singularity to escape the automatic solipsism that is
induced. Andrew Soltau's work, IMHO, is an exploration of this escape.
What I have been proposing is that the illustration in your SANE04
paper "Physical stuff" -> 1 map that you have is the dual of a 1 ->
"Physical Stuff" map as per the Stone Duality. The duals both emerge
simultaneously from a neutral primitive: "Nothingness" as per Russell
Standish's definition
<http://www.hpcoders.com.au/theory-of-nothing.pdf>. The ambiguous
statement of this emergence is: Everything emerges from Nothing as
Dual aspects.
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Onward!
Stephen
"Nature, to be commanded, must be obeyed."
~ Francis Bacon
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