On 7/20/2012 12:00 AM, Jason Resch wrote:

On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Stephen P. King <stephe...@charter.net <mailto:stephe...@charter.net>> wrote:

    On 7/19/2012 7:09 PM, Jason Resch wrote:

    On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Stephen P. King
    <stephe...@charter.net <mailto:stephe...@charter.net>> wrote:

        To fix a typo

        On 7/19/2012 3:46 PM, Stephen P. King wrote:
        Dear Bruno,

            I need to slow down and just address this question of
        your as it seems to be the point where we disconnect from
        understanding each other.

        On 7/19/2012 10:22 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
        At this stage I will ask you to define "physical".

            The physical is the represented as the sum of
        <http://www.thefreedictionary.com/incontrovertible> facts
        that mutually communicating observers have in common.

Some might say the only incontrovertible fact is "I think therefore I am" but this can't be communicated.

Hi Jason,

I missed this sentence somehow. The 1p experience cannot be itself communicated but the representation of it (which is 3p) that "I think therefore I am" can. We are doing it right here, no? This leads to an idea of what is 3p; that which is bisimilar for many observers.



"Nature, to be commanded, must be obeyed."
~ Francis Bacon

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