On 8/28/2012 4:02 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 8/28/2012 12:50 PM, Stephen P. King wrote:
Not at all. You need only a Turing universal system, and they abound in arithmetic.

This universality, as you yourself define it, ensures that all copies are identical and this by the principle of indiscernible are one and the same mind. There is no plurality generated unless there is a necessitation of a physical state association to a mind, but this would contradict comp.

No I it doesn't contradict comp, because the associated physics isn't ontologically primitive, it's part of what is generated by the UD.

Hi Brent,

Until there is a precise explanation of what this phrase "generation by the UD" might mean, we have just a repeated meaningless combinations of letters appearing on our computer monitors.

But I think it is right that there must be an associated physics, that 'mind' cannot exist independent of a physical world it experiences.

Please explain this to Bruno, as it is that I am complaining about in his step 8.

Of course whether it must be a physical world exactly like ours or wildly different is the 'white rabbit' problem.

Have you noticed that I am discussing a solution to the white rabbit problem using ideas from game theory?





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