Hi Stephen P. King It does have some problems if you include non-euclidean geometry and all of that. But I equate necessary with rational (in that realm). You can simply answer Yes or No.
Roger Clough, [email protected] 9/7/2012 Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so that everything could function." ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Stephen P. King Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-09-07, 10:01:22 Subject: Re: Where do numbers and geometry come from ? On 9/7/2012 7:21 AM, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Stephen P. King I believe that what is necessarily true (rationally true) had to be always true and thus a priori. Dear Roger, But this is just a matter of definition. It remains to be explained how the necessity is achived and how it is so in the many possible worlds. Man may think he created numbers or whatever, but whatever was there before man (to allow physics etc. to happen) something else had to create. Man simply discovered numbers. Certainly we can agree that we have a common concept of "numbers" but they are not concrete entities that we can locate in our "space" and "time" and do not have any other properties such as mass, charge, spin, duration. Therefore we have to not use the same terminology and "common sense" with numbers as we do with ordinary objects of the world. One of my motivations as a student of philosophy, is to explore multiple ways to bring the common sense in alignment with the requirements of abstractions, like numbers and to look forward from this alignment to see what might be indicated or predicted. Roger Clough, [email protected] 9/7/2012 Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so that everything could function." ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Stephen P. King Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-09-06, 11:35:56 Subject: Re: Where do numbers and geometry come from ? Dear Roger, Why is it that people persist in even suggesting that numbers are "created by man"? Why the anthropocentric bias? Pink Ponies might have actually crated them, or Polka-dotted Unicorns! The idea is just silly! The point is that properties do not occur at the whim of any one thing, never have and never will. -- Onward! Stephen http://webpages.charter.net/stephenk1/Outlaw/Outlaw.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
