On 07 Sep 2012, at 14:53, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Bruno Marchal
Any time I use the word God, I always mean IMHO God.
I am actually thinking instead of Cosmic Intelligence
or Cosmnic Mind.
I try not to use that word (God) but sometimes forget.
I can see that. No problem if it is an accepted fuzzy pointer on our
ignorance. Big problem if you reify it into a final explanation. I
like the term "cosmic", but only as poetry. The "cosmos" existence is
an open problem for me.
Bruno
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
9/7/2012
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him
so that everything could function."
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On 05 Sep 2012, at 17:34, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Bruno Marchal
God also created time, and anyway eternity is timeless,
not sure if spacless.
I can accept this as a rough sum up of some theory (= hypothesis; +
consequences), not as an explanation per se. As an explanation, it
is equivalent with "don't ask for more understanding", and you fall
in the authoritative trap.
Bruno
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
9/5/2012
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him
so that everything could function."
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On 04 Sep 2012, at 18:42, John Clark wrote:
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net> wrote:
> God created the human race.
And when God asks Himself the question "Why have I always existed,
why haven't I always not existed?" what answer in his omniscience
does He come up with?
The neoplatonist conception of God does not allow It to ask such a
question.
Nor does Arithmetical Truth.
God has no self-reference power at all, as this would make it
inconsistent.
Still defending the Christian God, aren't you?
Bruno
> God is the uncreated infinite intelligence
There was once a patent issued for a combination rat trap and
potato peeler and people laugh about that, but using the exact
same organ for both excretory and reproductive purposes does not
seem very intelligent to me either, much less infinitely
intelligent. And putting the blood vessels and nerves for the
retina of the eye in front not in the back so the light must pass
through them to get to the light sensitive cells also does not
seem very smart; no engineer in his right mind would place the
gears to move the film in a camera so that the light must pass
through the gears before hitting the film. That's not the sort of
thing you'd expect God to do, but it's exactly what you'd expect
Evolution to do.
John K Clark
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