But Roger, capitalism can go both ways as witnessed by the Great depression and the Great Recession. Richard
On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 6:35 AM, Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net> wrote: > Hi John Mikes > > Here's the dilemma: > > Unfortunately, any system -- with the exception of the oil-rich countries > (where fairness would seem to be hard to define) -- > that is completely fair is unsustainable. Capitalism, > like it or not, is the only known way to increase a > country's wealth. Fairness decreases a country's capacity > to grow. Darwin would agree. > > Cuba and the former soviet union and now europe > are good examples. They all failed in trying to be completely fair > or are in the process of failing. > > > Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net > 9/8/2012 > Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him > so that everything could function." > > ----- Receiving the following content ----- > From: John Mikes > Receiver: everything-list > Time: 2012-09-07, 14:44:26 > Subject: Re: There is no such thing as cause and effect > > Brent, > � > I believe there is a difference between (adj) 'fair' or 'unjust' and the > (noun) 'fairness', or 'consciousness'. > While the nouns (IMO)燼re not adequately identified the adverbs refer to the > applied system of correspondence. > E.g.: "Fair" to the unjust system. (I don't think we may use the opposite: > "unjust" to a 'fair' system in our discussion). > As I tried to explain in another post: the 'rich' consume MORE of the > country-supplied services than the not-so-rich and pay less taxes (unfair > and unjust). Certain big corporations also pay 'less' than the system would > require > (in all fairness - proverbially said) ordinarily. > Semantix, OOH! > � > John M > > On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 4:18 PM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: >> >> On 9/4/2012 1:12 PM, John Mikes wrote: >> >> >> � >> It is a 'trap' to falsify the adequate taxing of the 'rich' as a leftist >> attempt to distributing richness. It does not include more than a >> requirement for THEM to pay their FAIR share - maybe more than the >> not-so-rich layers (e.g. higher use of transportation, foreign connections, >> financial means, etc. - all costing money to the country) in spite of their >> lower share in the present unjust爐axation-scheme. >> ... >> >> And PLEASE, Brent, do not even utter in econo-political discussion the >> word "FAIRNESS"! >> >> >> So is it OK if I use "FAIR" and "unjust"? >> >> Brent >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
