Hi Bruno Marchal 

IMHO Digital devices can interface with living systems,
but they must always ultimately be slaves to the self,
the nonphysical governor (mind), just as the supreme 
monad (the All) is the governor of the universe. So transplant
of a physical brain seems a bit impossible as of yet.

And rocks have no intelligence so are governed purely by
physical laws.

Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him 
so that everything could function."
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From: Bruno Marchal 
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Time: 2012-09-08, 05:35:00
Subject: Re: The poverty of computers

On 07 Sep 2012, at 19:12, John Clark wrote:

On Fri, Sep 7 2012, Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net> wrote: 

> machines, even computers, IMHO in practice have no intellectual or feeling 
> facilities, are no more than dumb rocks.

Computers may or may not have feelings but that is of no concern to us, if they 
don't it's their problem not ours; 

It might concerns you if the doctor intents to replace your brain by a digital 
device, or if your daughter want marry a man who did that.

however those "dumb rocks" can and do outsmart us on a regular basis and the 
list of things they are superior at gets longer every day. The very title of 
this thread just screams whistling past the graveyard.    

> So there is no more communication with God possible than there would be with 
> an abacus.

Now that I agree with 100%, computers are no better at talking to God than a 
abacus is. 

Indeed. Abacus are Turing universal, and so have the same ability than us 
(assuming comp).



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