Hi Jason Resch Does the computer have the asbility to convert entropy into energy ? That's a fundamental requirement for life.
And life must be free to do what it wants, which I don't think computers can. The key word here is autonomy. Self-caused, self-determined, meaning a self is also needed. Only living things have selves of whatever type for governance. Even a daisy. Also, those properties are all inextended so they cannot be manipulated by physical devices. Roger Clough, [email protected] 9/11/2012 Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so that everything could function." ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Jason Resch Receiver: [email protected] Time: 2012-09-11, 10:47:29 Subject: Re: victims of faith On Sep 11, 2012, at 8:56 AM, "Roger Clough" <[email protected]> wrote: Hi Jason Resch What do we have that machines don't ? Intelligence, consciousnness, awareness. feelings-- in short, we have life, machines don't Why do you belive no machine can have these properties? Jason Roger Clough, [email protected] 9/11/2012 Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so that everything could function." ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Jason Resch Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-09-11, 09:04:05 Subject: Re: Re: victims of faith On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 7:50 AM, Roger Clough <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Alberto G. Corona > > Religious communion with God and prayer are transcendental so > not computable. > > Even those of the past who looked down on the "barbaric" and "uncivilized" native people believed they could be converted and saved. You profess that androids (like Data in star trek) is at an even lower place (than those who looked down on foreigners). What do we have that machines don't? We are all quarks and electrons, so what magic are the machines missing? Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.

