Stephen - the Matrix video is a faithful interpretation of comp, but Craig's story is not, unless he includes the crucial narrative - that of the simulated Craig eating the simulated meal. I expect Craig to say that the simulated Craig, the one making the yummy noises, is a zombie, and has no actual experience or inner narrative. He is entitled of course to that position. He is just saying no to the doctor.
Terren On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Stephen P. King <stephe...@charter.net> wrote: > On 9/16/2012 9:29 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote: >> >> Background: After refusing to serve Bruno's brother in law with the >> simulated brain at my restaurant, I decide to make peace by inviting myself >> to go along with Brother in law B1ll to his favorite restaurant. >> >> "It's the best in the city!", says B1ll. >> >> "That sounds great, because I am really hungry.", I reply anxiously. >> >> When we arrive we find a dark, silent building, full of empty seats. B1ll >> gestures for me to sit which I do and, it suddenly sounds like a restaurant. >> I hear sizzling and clanking for the kitchen and suddenly a waiter appears, >> offering me a menu. Just as I notice that the waiter bears a curious >> resemblance to Bruno, I wonder why he has not given B1ll a menu too. >> >> "I've already ordered", says B1ll. >> >> I look down at the menu, but I see only one item on it. It is called "The >> thing that you want to order". Wow. This is impressive. I look up and notice >> that what the waiter's nametag says. >> >> "Ok, Brun-0, you win. I'll have a number not-not-one, with everything on >> it." >> >> "Coming right up, monsieur. Would you like Löbian salad or Gödelian soup >> with that? The umlauts are excellent this time of year" >> >> "Sure" >> >> "Voila", Brun-0 exclaims. >> >> Seeing the confusion on my face, he gestures at the menu in my hand with a >> gracefully circular extension of his fingers, over and over, rotating in >> space hypnotically, until I realize that he wants me to turn the menu over. >> >> On the back of the menu is a beautiful HD video screen, which pops into >> life with a movie of someone sitting at...Hey!! It's Me! >> >> It's a movie of me, rendered so perfectly it looks absolutely real. I am >> being served a giant silver domed platter, which is removed to unveil a >> beautiful...menu. The camera pans down the gorgeous menu of sumptuous >> sounding descriptions of food. As the camera zooms into a closeup on the >> calligraphy, it can be seen that each culinary turn of phrase is constructed >> of beautifully written formulas and equations like G and Gp where p is >> delicious and G = emulated gustatory resource and p = Non-regurgitation >> parameters'. >> >> To my surprise, I now witness myself in the movie pick a fork and knife >> and begin eating the menu and thoroughly enjoying every bite. I seem to be >> making the exact yummy sounds and faces that I would expect. >> >> Turning to B1ll, I ask, >> >> "What did you order?" >> >> "I already ate.", he replies. >> >> As I look down at my clean plate and remember the great meal that I just >> had, I feel unusually satisfied. Curiously I can't remember exactly what it >> was that I ate, but I no reason to care. I can't care. I believe that I must >> have eaten exactly what I wanted. >> >> Craig > > Check out the Matrix version of this story: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7BuQFUhsRM > > -- > Onward! > > Stephen > > http://webpages.charter.net/stephenk1/Outlaw/Outlaw.html > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to email@example.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.