Hi meekerdb  

I would say that one necessary ability for
life is for an organism to be able to separate itself off 
from its environment and thus to be able to make its
own decisions without outside interference. In
other words, to be autonomous.

Materialism provides no such focussing tool.
I would call that tool a self, primitive though it may be.


Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 
9/20/2012  
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen 


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Time: 2012-09-19, 15:05:52 
Subject: Re: Zombieopolis Thought Experiment 


On 9/19/2012 10:42 AM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: 
> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 12:38 AM, Roger Clough wrote: 
>> Hi Stathis Papaioannou 
>> 
>> OK, I'll bite. 
>> 
>> How does modern biology define life ? 
> It's rarely defined unless someone asks for a definition. Problems 
> arise with the definition when it comes to viruses and prions, which 
> have some characteristics of other entities commonly considered alive 
> but not others. 

I think they illustrate the point that the ability to live is always relative 
to an  
environment. 

Brent 

> We can imagine other cases of entities that grow, 
> replicate and maintain homeostasis but may or may not be said to be 
> alive based on some other arbitrary criterion, such as whether it uses 
> organic chemistry. Thus a machine (electronic and mechanical) that 
> maintains itself, seeks energy and spare parts from its environment 
> and makes copies of itself may or may not be called "alive" depending 
> on the whim of the definer. 
> 
> But the important point I wanted to make is that biologists reject vitalism. 
> 
> 

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