Hi Stephen P. King The self is the monarch of your personal world. It is "you" in the personal sense.* It perceives, it controls, it knows, it does, it remembers, it lives.
Since the self is nonphysical, I say that it lives rather than exists. Anything that lives is autonomous, anything that does not live is not autonomous. *Note that in english, the personal you would be thee of thou. German and mandarin have comparable distinctions. Roger Clough, [email protected] 9/21/2012 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Stephen P. King Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-09-20, 15:48:27 Subject: Re: Life requires autonomy On 9/20/2012 6:54 AM, Roger Clough wrote: > Hi meekerdb > > I would say that one necessary ability for > life is for an organism to be able to separate itself off > from its environment and thus to be able to make its > own decisions without outside interference. In > other words, to be autonomous. > > Materialism provides no such focussing tool. > I would call that tool a self, primitive though it may be. > > > Roger Clough,[email protected] > 9/20/2012 > "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen Dear Roger, What are the necessary requirements for a Self? What defines "autonomy"? I think that it is closure of some kind. -- Onward! Stephen http://webpages.charter.net/stephenk1/Outlaw/Outlaw.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.

