Hi Stephen P. King  

The self is the monarch of your personal world. 
It is "you" in the personal sense.*
It perceives, it controls, it knows, it does,
it remembers, it lives. 

Since the self is nonphysical, I say that it lives rather than exists. 

Anything that lives is autonomous, anything that does not live is not 
autonomous. 

*Note that in english, the personal you would be thee of thou.
German and mandarin have comparable distinctions.

Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 
9/21/2012  
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen 


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Time: 2012-09-20, 15:48:27 
Subject: Re: Life requires autonomy 


On 9/20/2012 6:54 AM, Roger Clough wrote: 
> Hi meekerdb 
> 
> I would say that one necessary ability for 
> life is for an organism to be able to separate itself off 
> from its environment and thus to be able to make its 
> own decisions without outside interference. In 
> other words, to be autonomous. 
> 
> Materialism provides no such focussing tool. 
> I would call that tool a self, primitive though it may be. 
> 
> 
> Roger Clough,rclo...@verizon.net  
> 9/20/2012 
> "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen 
Dear Roger, 

     What are the necessary requirements for a Self? What defines  
"autonomy"? I think that it is closure of some kind. 

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Stephen 

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