On 10/1/2012 10:17 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Stephen P. King

Good idea, but unfortunately monads are not numbers,
numbers will now guide them or replace them.
Monads have to be associated with corporeal bodies down here in
contingia, where crap happens.

Hi Roger,

    I agree, monads are not numbers. Monads use numbers.

Roger Clough,rclo...@verizon.net 10/1/2012
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen

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From: Stephen P. King
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Time: 2012-09-30, 14:22:03
Subject: Re: Numbers and other inhabitants of Platonia are also inhabitants 

On 9/30/2012 8:34 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
>Hi Bruno Marchal
>I'm still trying to figure out how numbers and ideas fit
>into Leibniz's metaphysics. Little is written about this issue,
>so I have to rely on what Leibniz says otherwise about monads.
>Previously I noted that numbers could not be monads because
>monads constantly change. Another argument against numbers
>being monads is that all monads must be attached to corporeal
>bodies. So monads refer to objects in the (already) created world,
>whose identities persist, while ideas and numbers are not
>created objects.
>While numbers and ideas cannot be monads, they have to
>be are entities in the mind, feelings, and bodily aspects
>of monads. For Leibniz refers to the "intellect" of human
>monads. And similarly, numbers and ideas must be used
>in the "fictional" construction of matter-- in the bodily
>aspect of material monads, as well as the construction
>of our bodies and brains.
Dear Roger,

      Bruno's idea is a form of "Pre-Established Hamony", in that the
"truth" of the numbers is a pre-established ontological primitive.




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