On 24 Sep 2012, at 16:39, Stephen P. King wrote:

On 9/24/2012 9:34 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi meekerdb

The computer can mechanically prove something,
but it cannot know that it did so. It cannot
sit back with a beer and muse over how smart it is.

Hi Roger,

What you are considering that a computer does not have is the ability to model itself within its environment and compute optimizations of such a model to guide its future choices. This can be well represented within a computational framework and it is something that Bruno has worked out in his comp model. (My only beef with Bruno is that his model is so abstract that it is completely disconnected from the physical world and thus has a "body" problem.)

But that is the "scientific success" of the comp theory (not "model") : it reduces the mind body problem to a body problem, in a precise realm, with a technic to extract the "laws of bodies", making comp an utterly scientific, in Popper sense, theory. You still miss the point. The body problem is not a defect, it is the main success of comp.



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