Those who have faith in the possibility of brain transplants might consider this:
You cannot separate the self (your ID) from the body. Your skin, the envelope of your body and self, is part of you, meaning your self. Why ? If somebody pricks you with a pin, it causes a body reaction. Yoga also uses this wholistic bodymind approach, relaxing muscles relaxwes the mind. Pretty obvious. The sense of touch is our most intimate sense, and that's part of the skin. Intimate to the self. But free will arguments typically leave out the body as a determinant. So, including body in the definition of the self, I prefer to use the term "self-determination", meaning that our will and thought and desifre is affected by everything within our skin. Roger Clough, [email protected] 10/1/2012 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Stephen P. King Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-09-30, 14:23:50 Subject: Re: Zombieopolis Thought Experiment On 9/30/2012 8:39 AM, Roger Clough wrote: > Only life evolves, and steel claws, being made of steel, are not alive, > at least in the ordinary sense (Leibniz believed that everything in > the universe is alive). So what you propose couldn't happen. The unstated assumption here is that organism are defined by the bounding surface of their skin, anything 'outside' of that is being assumed to not be part of them. It is not hard to knock down this idea as nonsensical! -- Onward! Stephen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.

